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AIBU?

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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
greenwaterbottle · 25/08/2019 12:39

Fingers crossed for tonight

rookiemere · 25/08/2019 12:48

Ha ha - selling your guest bed is about as drastic action as you can take - good on you OP !

I think you're starting to make a few realisations about your DF. She is making her own choices - living in a place she doesn't like, doing a course that she will find stressful even though it's entirely optional, trying to go to a toddlers get together when she's not invited. It will actually be good for her to have to make other arrangements and get out of her comfort zone.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/08/2019 12:55

Hmmm. She's not that good a friend to you, OP.

It all sounds very one sided.

Drum2018 · 25/08/2019 12:56

Well hopefully she'll be out by tonight after helping you move the furniture. Instead of having 5 rooms as bedrooms you could just have 3 (yours and one each for the kids when baby is old enough) and have a playroom and an extra lounge with a sofa bed. That way you can have occasional visitors stay on sofa bed, but not have them take the piss by overstaying their welcome.

EdtheBear · 25/08/2019 13:16

Good for you Op you've done the right thing.

Looking at the layout of your house. The downstairs bedroom I'd be tempted to turn into another living space, either an adult only living room. Or use it as a kids playroom - keeping your other room free of toys.

I really hope you get somebody to take the bed away. Good luck

CuriousMama · 25/08/2019 13:22

Great update just hope she really goes. She sounds too negative.

Gottoloveabagel · 25/08/2019 13:29

Really hope she leaves!

I do find it odd she doesn't help out. I help out if I'm visiting for an afternoon as my friends do when they come to me. A few years ago we stayed with friends in Australia for a week, we made cups of tea, cooked meals, cleaned and stripped beds before going! So strange she does nothing

Ohmygoodnessreally · 25/08/2019 13:41

Has she said where she’s sleeping tonight??

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 13:45

Just realised part of my post is missing below. I meant to say she let herself in last night and I saw her this morning so haven't spent much time with her yet.

@EdtheBear That's something I'm thinking about for sure. Also looking at turning study into a children's bedroom and making the top floor the office. That way we're all on one floor.

I just had a call from the mutual friend who was going to put her up asking me to have her back instead because her husband decided he wants to work from home so their office/guest room needs to be an office. I was pretty blunt and told her I am a million months pregnant, it's just not possible right now. I hope they figure something out.

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Henlie · 25/08/2019 13:46

I’m hope she does go this evening Op(!) I have a feeling though that she’ll say she can’t find anywhere 😏.

Re; your house diagram, as another PP has suggested I’d be tempted to turn the ground floor bedroom into either a playroom or a sitting room for you and DH to relax in.

We moved into a house with a lot of bedrooms and have purposefully turned one into an en-suite and another into an office.... It suits our needs. I think you just need to gear your house up going forward to suit you as a family of four, and not to suit visiting guests 😊.

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 25/08/2019 13:49

I'm another one awaiting the sob story that she has nowhere else to go and absolutely has to stay with you... sorry OP, I hope that doesn't happen but if it does I hope you stand firm.

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/08/2019 13:50

@CuriousMama She wasn't this negative when she was taking her medication and engaging in treatment for anxiety. She stopped recently and she seems to have gotten a lot worse.

Our mutual friend who called me sort of alluded to finding her tough company lately as well.

If I had more emotional energy I would probably try to think of a kind way to raise it with DF and see if she's aware of her mood change and try to get her to re engage with treatment..but I don't want to open that can of worms while she's under my roof Blush

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rookiemere · 25/08/2019 13:52

Wow is friend on minimum wage or has difficulty understanding pretty obvious situations. She needs to find a B&B or premier inn or similar to stay in. The friend phoning you rather than just telling her suggests that no one treats her like a proper adult who needs to look after herself. Stay strong OP.

sackrifice · 25/08/2019 13:53

I just had a call from the mutual friend who was going to put her up asking me to have her back instead because her husband decided he wants to work from home so their office/guest room needs to be an office.

I'll be he has!

Davros · 25/08/2019 14:02

Just to say, if you can put your kids on their own floor and it's above you, do it!

Stuckforthefourthtime · 25/08/2019 14:10

Personally I'd turn the downstairs bedroom into a sitting room for adults, with a sofa bed, you stay on the middle floor and put kids on top floor (or vice versa). We felt really odd at first about having children on another level from us when we moved to our current house, but with stair gates and a monitor it actually works fine and is much better in terms of layout and bedrooms.

Daenerys77 · 25/08/2019 14:12

You sound like a very generous person, but for most of us, 16 to 20 days would be far too long for a house guest even in the best of circumstances. Unless this friendship is more important than your marriage or your health, I think you need to tell her no, and don't feel that you have to find her an alternative billet; she is an adult and can sort out her own accommodation surely? If she's taking a work related course, presumably her employer will meet reasonable accommodation costs.

whitebowls · 25/08/2019 14:14

OP
She's treating your home and you like you're her parents. It's time for her to grow up and be self sufficient. Book an Airbnb for herself.
You've nipped it in the bud for now but she'll be back, I promise you, saying 'it's ok, I'll sleep on the sofa'.
I travel back to my home town a few times a year, I could stay with lots of friends or family but I don't. I get an Airbnb and previously I had a small apartment. It's normal to want privacy.
Bless your friend, I'm sure things are a struggle for her but being dependent on you is only going to end in tears.

Sunshineface123 · 25/08/2019 14:14

Not read all the replies. But if there's a toddler in with you then they need to go Into the spare room right? Then you can just say you don't have room!

Mxyzptlk · 25/08/2019 14:17

I was pretty blunt and told her I am a million months pregnant, it's just not possible right now.

So you can be blunt with the mutual friend but not with the CF?

Tell the same thing to CF.
What she does about it is her problem, not yours.

Derbee · 25/08/2019 14:18

I think it takes the piss a bit to come for a bank holiday weekend, and want to come to a party you’re going to. If she’s not a CF, she’s a severely socially unaware and needy individual.

If your mutual friend and her DH are better at sticking up for themselves than you are, your friend will be staying at yours for the duration...

The fact that mutual friend called you to discuss your friend means that for some bloody reason you are all pussyfooting around the original friend, as though you are all responsible for her?! It’s getting too ridiculous, OP.

If you find yourself in a situation where your original friend needs to stay, you need to just tell her it doesn’t work and she needs to find a B&B.

Please let us know if she leaves after the weekend, but I suspect I already know the answer...

Mxyzptlk · 25/08/2019 14:22

This too.

The friend phoning you rather than just telling her suggests that no one treats her like a proper adult who needs to look after herself.

howdyalikemenow · 25/08/2019 14:25

I feel exhausted just reading this op. I do hope she doesn't come up with a sob story later

ReasonedCamper · 25/08/2019 14:29

Hmm at the mutual friend trying to make it your problem again.

livefornaps · 25/08/2019 14:29

Get that bloody key back; enough is enough. Reading this has made me very annoyed. Why are you all pussyfooting round her? Ridiculous situation

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