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To think it's fine for lesbians to hold events without males and that Leeds Council shouldn't have banned this advert?

94 replies

LesbianMeansSomething · 21/08/2019 23:05

A group of lesbians have organised a march which is just for lesbian women but Leeds Council have removed an advert for it because the event is "exclusionary" - specifically because it excludes male lesbians:

www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/leeds-city-council-bans-advert-16786033

AIBU to think that sometimes it is fine to be exclusionary - that in both an LGBTQ+ community and a wider society where we are a very small minority and are often marginalised, it is fine for lesbian women to organise and attend our own events?

In the past I didn't really see the need for a lesbian-only march and would just go to Pride but I have changed my mind due to the current hostility towards lesbians at Pride and within the community generally and all the messages from the queer community that deny our sexual orientation - eg articles about how to have lesbian sex with a penis www.autostraddle.com/how-to-have-trans-woman-lesbian-sex-with-a-penis-414839/ and books like "Girl Sex 101" where 50% of the 'lesbians' have penises twitter.com/daphna2011/status/1136040777614733312/photo/1 and illustrations show "progressive, inclusive" lesbians happily snuggling up to penis-having 'lesbians' twitter.com/saskeah/status/698144922889756672/photo/1

Why shouldn't female homosexuals be able to find each other and meet up without our adverts being pulled and without people trying to sabotage our events and intimidate us?

OP posts:
AverageAvenger · 21/08/2019 23:06

YANBU

OtraCosaMariposa · 21/08/2019 23:08

male lesbian surely is the same as heterosexual man?

Samcro · 21/08/2019 23:08

WTF is a male lesbian

ClassicQuine · 21/08/2019 23:11

Sick of this shit.

Women do not have penises.

Lesbian is adult homosexual female human. No penis.

YADNBU!

funnylittlefloozie · 21/08/2019 23:15

Is my boyfriend a "male lesbian"? He has a penis, and is sexually attracted to women? Come to think of it, am I a female gay man - a vagina, but sexually attracted to men?

FFS, what utter nonsense. It seems that lesbian women are the hardest hit by all this trans-inclusionary bollocks.

TerfTalk · 21/08/2019 23:15

Yanbu

Lesbians are females attracted to those of the same sex.

Gender is completely irrelevant and has zero to do with sexuality.

Newschapter · 21/08/2019 23:17

YANBU

Whatisthisfuckery · 21/08/2019 23:20

I am a lesbian. I won’t go to pride any more or to my local gay pub or LGBT events because I’ve had a barrage of online abuse for stating lesbians are female homosexuals. Last year a man shouted TERF at me across the street. The community I used to go to to feel safe and accepted now make me feel anything but safe. I’ve had my local pride’s facebook posts popping up on my newsfeed all year reposting articles about how lesbians are bigots for excluding males. If anybody suggested gay men should include females and embrace mangina there’d be uproar.

Me and DP will be at the march in September even though it’s 160 miles away. It’s the one and only time I get to meet up with other lesbians because all the places I used to go have now become dangerous. It really is that bad.

AngryFeminist · 21/08/2019 23:20

My blood is fucking boiling on your behalf.

Marshmarigoldssss · 21/08/2019 23:20

Yanbu. Wtf is wrong with Leeds city council?

Aberhonddu · 21/08/2019 23:21

The female penis only exists in the minds of some people. If a person has a penis then they cannot possibly be Lesbian.
Definitely not unreasonable op.
This thread will most likely deemed to be transphobic and deleted.

.Human beings cannot change Sex.
Lesbian= Women that love and want to have sex with Women.
Woman=Adult Female.
Lesbian Women don't want to have sex with men.

helpmeiamatoad · 21/08/2019 23:22

No I’m not surprised that they would ban an advert that states ‘trans people are not welcome at this event’, no matter what the reason is

ViciousTrollop · 21/08/2019 23:22

YANBU.

I'm in Leeds and am mortified to have this bunch of painfully woke wankbags as my council.

Really want to attend this event as an ally but am nervous of doing so on my tod (straight female). Any MNers who want to go together, message me!

HugsAreMyDrugs · 21/08/2019 23:23

No such thing as a male lesbian.

YANBU.

SockMachine · 21/08/2019 23:23

Leeds Council trying to force Lesbian women to include males as an act of equality demonstrates exactly what is wrong with this whole mess.

zen1 · 21/08/2019 23:24

YADNBU. This makes me so angry.

Templetonstunafish · 21/08/2019 23:26

I imagine a white pride event might be similarly received.

Thehop · 21/08/2019 23:27

Tempted to attend as a straight female just to show support. I didn’t realise how bad things were.

ViciousTrollop · 21/08/2019 23:28

@Thehop

🤜🤛

ashtrayheart · 21/08/2019 23:29

Male lesbian ffs

Sarahisthatyou · 21/08/2019 23:29

YABU - they are discriminating against trans women. Hence the ban.

Jammydodger1981 · 21/08/2019 23:31

What the actual fuck. Standing in solidarity with you OP, we can’t make the march but my thoughts will be with you all. I think what you’re doing is so important. My daughter is a lesbian and I fear for her, I really do.

ElizaDee · 21/08/2019 23:32

😂😂😂😂😂
Wtf is a male lesbian???

Aberhonddu · 21/08/2019 23:33

@helpmeiamatoad
Where does the advert state that Transpeople are not welcome. Go on help me out where does it explicitly say Transpeople are not welcome.

MuseThalia · 21/08/2019 23:33

Male Lesbians Grin Grin. Its funny how it always seems to be the males who have transitioned (or transitioning) to female who are kicking up a fuss isn't it? I have never heard of this type of rubbish from people who are trans female to male