When did it become a thing

[SilverySurfer]

That people started saying 'me/myself, DH and DCs'? The correct term is DH, DCs and I. As an example, me/myself, DH and DCs went to London. I went to London is correct, me/myself went to London is obviously wrong.

How about people asking you to bare with them? Seems quite prevalent on mn. You know you're asking people to get naked with you, right?

The phrase is "bear with me."

www.grammarly.com/blog/bear-with-me/

My dd does it, she hates me correcting her!

Easy way way to remember is

You and I are we
Us is you and me.

You could avoid the issue by saying

I went to the park with the kids.
Or
I took the kids to the park.

I think the normalisation of bigotry that brexit has delivered is encouraging Nazis of all sorts out of the woodwork, of course the grammar kind are at the friendliest end of the spectrum, but it would still be good if they just kept it to themselves.

Personally I'm happy with any approach on these "Grammatically Deviant Prestige Constructions"

My pet hate is "between you and I". It's ME fgs, it's after a preposition so has to be ME, the nominative.

PuzzledObserver oh yes that's a good one and how about que instead of cue?

sirfredfredgeorge how about you do as you want and others will do the same.

You lost me with the Brexit/Nazi rambling.

If nobody stands up for grammar, spelling and punctuation, then where will we be in a few years' time? Text speak and swearing about sums it up!

Just how has someone managed to shoehorn fecking Brexit into this thread? I was a pedant not long after we joined the bloody common market (I started quite young).

I can imagine these conversations:

What day is it today?
Monday
Ah, but, with Brexit it'll probably be Snarflefastday,innit.

I don’t know but this place is catching

I found myself saying ‘I borrowed it off her’ instead of ‘I borrowed it from her’.

I also don’t like it when people say ‘she’s doing amazing’... I feel sorry for all the ‘ly’ s that are being discarded...

The other phrase I hate is 'for free' - is should be either 'free' or 'for nothing' !

iklboo I know, it makes me laugh and I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing in the world that can't be blamed on Brexit.

Someone ran into the back of your car? Obviously not concentrating because they were thinking about Brexit.

Man has sex with woman and forgets to put on condom? You can't blame him, he was thinking of Brexit.

People use diabolical grammar. Well what do you expect, they have Brexit on their mind.

As a Tory and Leave voter I'm obviously a baby eating Nazi (I prefer mine barbecued)

Silvery with English mustard, of course.

iklboo is there any other kind?

I think the misuse of "yourself" comes from a strange sense that "you" as a pronoun is far too direct when you're trying to be a bit sycophantic to someone. That principle has applied in aristocratic circles for centuries. If you're talking to the Queen you can't refer to her as "you", you have to say "your majesty". A duke is "your grace". Equally Elaine in the call centre is never going to "put you on hold", she will always "just pop yourself on hold" 🤮

Not quite the same but was intrigued to find out there is a very specific way of describing objects. The long blue cracked pencil, The little old lady. Saying the adjectives in adifferent order doesn’t sound right, and we do it subconsciously.

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I can forgive you your aberrant voting behaviour, OP, because you stand for correct grammar. It's those leave-voting Tories with bad literacy I can't stand.

The other one that gets me is:

" We was sat."

ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!

Again, I don’t know if it’s correct but the Snow Patrol song - “if I lay here” just sounded wrong when I first heard it. Not the song as whole, though I’m sure a lot of people hate it

Always think Gary is going to lay an egg.

"I also hate the latest thing of calling an invitation an invite, grrr."

Join the club, SilverySurfer, join the club.

Going back a bit, in Flanders & Swann's 'At the Drop of Another Hat', they do a piece about a National Song for England - A Song of Patriotic Prejudice. In the preamble, Michael Flanders is commenting on the songs from other parts of the British Isles - "...like 'Scotland for Aye', or 'for me' as it should more properly be..."

PuzzledObserver
I can forgive you your aberrant voting behaviour, OP, because you stand for correct grammar. It's those leave-voting Tories with bad literacy I can't stand.

How kind. If you are a leftie/liberal Remainer you must be one of the politest. Since the Referendum all the Leavers have been verbally abused by a large number of Remainers on here. Among some of the choice names we've been called are delights such as: thick as pig shit, stupid, racist, xenophobic, ignorant, brainwashed, twats, unthinking, uneducated, Daily Mail reading immigrant haters, among others.

Fortunately I'm a believer in sticks and stones........ and their vitreol says more about them than us.

I also hate the latest thing of calling an invitation an invite, grrr

That's right up there with myself/yourself and got.

'Can I get...' 'No. You may have...'