When did it become a thing

[SilverySurfer]

That people started saying 'me/myself, DH and DCs'? The correct term is DH, DCs and I. As an example, me/myself, DH and DCs went to London. I went to London is correct, me/myself went to London is obviously wrong.

It's the same as saying your welcome it's you're welcome or you should of, it's you should have.

If that's the case, it would be DH, DCs and me.

I suppose if one asked eg who is in your family then the above would
be be correct but the norm is DH, DCs and I.

I agree Bobbin it drives me mad, I'll not get on to my total hatred of could/would/should OF or I will really blow a gasket

I also have a particular hatred of things like 'I could of went to...' 'I would of had to of said something' and 'I would of like to of gone' - all seen on MN and unfortunately indelibly imprinted on my brain.

Sometimes it's I, sometimes it's me. There's a grammatical explanation (subject vs object) but you don't need the explanation to get it right. All you have to do is remove the other person or people next to the 'I/me' from the sentence and see which sounds right....

e.g. Ds, dh and me went to the cinema.

Remove dh and ds. "Me went to the cinema". Nope. Should be "I".

Sarah went to France with dh and I.

Remove dh. "Sarah went to France with I." Nope. Should be "me".

Easy peasy.

I have noticed that servers in restaurants often use yourself/yourselves instead of you as in, “Is everything alright for yourselves?” I think it’s meant to sound polite but it actually really annoys me.

a friend who teaches English told me off for saying "mum and I went shopping". She says it's "mum and me went shopping".

I thought she was wrong but didn't say anything. If anyone knows the answer, I'd be grateful.

apparently, this same English teacher told my sister that she's not heard of Graham Greene.

Iirc "me" is the object, which has something done to it, "he moved me", "she loves me", "he went with me to the party", "the party is too loud for me".

"I" is the subject, which does the action - "I went to the party", "I love her", "Emma and I cooked dinner last night"

But then... Doesn't that mean if someone asks you "who is coming to the party?" and it's only you going, that you should answer "I" rather than "me"? Unnatural!

You are right RosaWaiting and your English teacher friend is wrong.

She was wrong, when you are the subject of the sentence (the one doing the do) its I, when you are the object of the sentence (the one being done to) its me.

a friend who teaches English told me off for saying "mum and I went shopping". She says it's "mum and me went shopping".

I thought she was wrong but didn't say anything. If anyone knows the answer, I'd be grateful.

She's wrong - if you take your mum out it's easier - 'I went shopping', not 'me went shopping'.

But then... Doesn't that mean if someone asks you "who is coming to the party?" and it's only you going, that you should answer "I" rather than "me"? Unnatural!

I think the correct answer is probably “I am.” But normal people would just say “me”.

Bloody reflexive pronoun abuse!

Too right! I love the character of Arthur from Cabin Pressure and he makes me laugh with his reflexive pronouns because he thinks it sounds more impressive and formal: "Myself welcomes yourself onto this flight today. How can myself be of assistance to yourself?"

@lazylinguist has given the best explanation I think

RosaWaiting

If you remove your mother from the sentence you surely would say I went shopping, not me went shopping so your friend is wrong. Ask her what she say to tell you she was going shopping and I bet she will say I.

Another way to explain it...If you’d say ‘us’, it’s me

‘Leave us alone’ = Leave Tom and me alone.

If you’d say ‘we’, it’s I

We are going to a party, = Tom and I are going to a party.

I think.

But yes... leave me alone and I am going to a party is how I’d remember it, as @lazylinguist says.

Aaargh. I hate it. Retail assistants - "Is it for yourself?" Telephone sales - "I can get a good deal for yourself!"
Fuck offself.

@SilverySurfer I don’t think you actually know how to use it yourself! It’s not normally “I” at all. It’s pretty often “me”, as @lazylinguist says.

The myself/yourself trend drives me insane.

"If you have any questions, please feel free to come and speak to myself...."

URGH. It doesn't show any sign of going away.

@SilverySurfer Oh, maybe you do. Sorry!

I've noticed when watching police programmes that a lot of police officers have a tendency to say something like 'I must ask you to accompany myself to the police station'. It sounds so silly.

I am generally in the outraged at misuse camp, but even I, if asked who was coming to the party, would say 'DH and me.' If it was only me, I would probably say 'me.' Or 'I am'.

Australians always say 'and I' even when it should be 'and me.'

I was also taught that you should put the other person/people first, e.g. DM, DP and I/me.

ikiboo - no, to the question 'Who is going on holiday?', you would say, 'Sarah, John and me', as an answer; however, if you were just making statements, you would say' Sarah, John and I are going on holiday' because you three are the subject of the sentence!

That's not the only one that grips my shit. Since when did something say like "should've" translate to "should of" or "could've" to "could of"???

Rant over.

LampHat

No problem. I don't care if Me or I is used, providing its the correct one and placed at the end of DH, DCs and...

It's annoying when people say something incorrectly because they think it sounds 'posher' (i.e. incorrect use of "myself").

It doesn't bother me if people colloquially use "me" instead of "I" (unless it's in a formal document).

I hate it too. I have nothing to add of any value to this but just to say, yes, I hate it.

Particularly, as a PP stated, in restaurants for some reason. ARGGGGHH.