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WIBU to insist on this pram?

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aliensprig · 14/08/2019 09:15

I really, really want a Bugaboo Fox. In the reviews it ticks all the boxes for me: sturdy, lightweight, all-terrain, great storage and obviously pretty damn gorgeous!!

BUT DH doesn't think we should spend a grand on something we'll only use for about three years and wants us to get something second hand. He doesn't understand that there are literally billions of types out there, and some of the cheaper brands are cheap for a reason!

Also he won't ever be pushing the damn thing - I don't drive, and will be doing A LOT of walking with it. We live in a hilly town with some rural areas, so just buying something at random from the Argos catalogue isn't going to cut it. It needs to be light, easily folded, have good storage and be able to tackle mud, uneven ground, hills and busy streets.

WIBU to just buy the Fox regardless? We're not rich by any means, but we're not poor either, we can afford it. Plus I expect my parents will want to cover half the cost. Or should I compromise and get something cheaper like the baby jogger city mini? I don't like that it's forward facing only, but it's another all-terrain and my husband is more likely to agree on that one...

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MustardScreams · 14/08/2019 09:41

The thing is, as baby gets bigger having a big pram like that becomes a hindrance rather than helpful. Trying to lug a big pram, bags and a toddler onto public transport becomes a nightmare and I’ll bet money you’ll have bought a lightweight, easy to fold pushchair by the time your child is 2. And then you have 2 prams to store which is a pain in itself.

jesuschristwtf · 14/08/2019 09:41

Op you want the brand and status symbol- own it. It’s not an all terrain - much better prams out there for half the price but if you can afford it - buy what you want.

amibeingacunexttuesday · 14/08/2019 09:42

Bugaboos also have good resale value if you decide to sell.

daisypond · 14/08/2019 09:42

Your DH is right. Are you sure you need a pram at all? I never had a pram with any of my three. I used a sling, and then when they were older a foldable lightweight buggy- easy for getting on and off public transport.

kidsdoingmyheadin · 14/08/2019 09:42

We had/have loads of prams as grandparents live very close including Uppababy Vista, Bugaboo Bee, a Hauck one. The one I use the most is the Maclaren, my mum loves her charity shop travel one & the Hauck is the easiet one to fly with.
I don’t think spending ££££ is worth it personally.

MaisieDaisy1 · 14/08/2019 09:42

Oh dear you’ve bought into the pram hype. It’s utterly ridiculous to spend that amount of money on a pram. @soontobe60 said it in a nutshell. It’s a status symbol and there are much better prams out there. When my son was tiny Mamas and Papas was all the rage. You’ll kick yourself for being so stupid when you reflect back in years to come.

Youmadorwhat · 14/08/2019 09:43

I would!! I did.and then I sold it for half it’s price so technically I only spent half...ta da!! Tell him you want that one and to suck it up 😂😂

Nautiloid · 14/08/2019 09:44

I couldn't bring myself to spend that much. By the time my DC were 18 months old, I was using a £20 pushchair from Mothercare because that's what suits that age group when a buggy is needed.
You can get a £1k travel system, a £250 Mothercare one or something in between. I don't think you will notice much difference, definitely not £100s of benefit to your life. So my personal choice would be to save the money for something else.

EssentialHummus · 14/08/2019 09:45

I’d imagine though that you’ll only use it for a year or so as 1 year olds get really heavy, and a 10kg buggy + toddler is tough to push.

This for me too. The main thing with prams is that actually I think it’s hard to know what you need until you’re there doing it, and your needs may change as your child grows. So imo a used premium pram is a good idea, or a cheaper travel system, or a sling for when they’re tiny, or borrowing a pram from a friend if that’s an option. I’m fairly happy with mine (Cosatto) but wouldn’t buy it if I had my time again, knowing what I know now. But the entire thing was £300 and came with a four year warranty which makes it all a bit easier.

Morgan12 · 14/08/2019 09:46

I spent £800 on a pram and switched to a £130 Joie buggy when DS was about 10 months. Honestly think expensive prams are a waste of money.

Nogoodusername · 14/08/2019 09:46

I would buy the pram you want. I did and used it for both DC and lent it to my friend for a year - well worth it! X

Tinkerbell89 · 14/08/2019 09:47

Ours grew out of her pram quite quickly & they're heavy & big to get around with. We downsized to a stroller when she was one. Lightweight, takes up less space and she fits in it. Her feet started dangling over the edge of her big pram. Big prams are great when little but you won't necessarily use it until they're 3. Most people I know have downsized to a stroller when they turn 1.

It's got to be whats best for you but we bought so many things then changed our mind. Only you can decide but there are much cheaper prams out there that will do the same. Go to a shop & try a few out

fraxion · 14/08/2019 09:48

I had the babyjogger, and then bought it again 10 years later because it was so awesome.

My friend had one of those and it was amazing, as light as a feather to push.

Belladonna123 · 14/08/2019 09:49
Grin I would say if thats what you want and it does what you need go for it. Life is to short to have such 'regrets' lol
whifflesqueak · 14/08/2019 09:50

My Out’n’About Nipper was a fraction of that price, utterly indestructible, would go anywhere (we’re a farming family), lightweight and folded up in half a jiffy.

Never bothered with a carrycot. Much easier to use a sling in the very early days.

Aderyn19 · 14/08/2019 09:50

I think you should buy what you want - since he won't be using it, I think it's your decision. I wouldn't get a second hand pram for my baby if I could afford not to. I had 4 DC and have spent serious money on prams over the years and I don't regret a penny of it.

That said, with last DC I had a baby jogger Citi mini and it was fab. There is a window on the hood do you can always see the baby and it was so easy to use. The other brilliant one I had was a silver cross wayfarer but that's been discontinued now, which is a shame because it really was the best.
You can get excellent prams for less than a thousand pounds but if you have your heart set on a specific thing and can afford it then I say but it.
Besides, you might use it for a second child or could resell it and recoup some costs.
Tell your husband you will do so even if you have no intention Wink

newmomof1 · 14/08/2019 09:53

I'm in the 'get it if you want it' camp! (And if you can afford it of course).

Quite a few people here say they used slings for 6 months but we were advised against this at antenatal classes.

We were lucky that the in-laws bought our pram (uppababy vista) but we'd already decided what we wanted before they offered so would have bought it ourselves anyway. It was around £1000 for the full set.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 14/08/2019 09:53

Buy the pram you want, if you can afford it. If you don't drive it will get a lot more use.

FWIW (also non driver) when we had DS1 we bought a Bugaboo Frog, the original model - it was expensive and felt expensive to us then. He used it all the way through until we had DD 2 and a bit years later, when she used it, and DS1 went on a buggy board. We lent it to a friend for her DD, who returned it in time for DS2 to use. It's now with other friends whose DS has used it for 2 years. It is nearly 15 years old, still looks fabulous and works like new. DH is all for packaging it up for an heirloom!

notanothercrapusername · 14/08/2019 09:53

YANBU if you think you'll use it lots, can afford it and want it for practicality reasons. YABU if you want it just because it's a Bugaboo and there's a bit of pram snobbery going on!

We bought a Silver Cross Pioneer travel system when I was pregnant with my first. We did get a deal on it, but in the end spent about £900 on it including the car seat and base.

I loved it so much I never even bothered buying a buggy with my eldest. I could get a decent shop in the basket! Nearly four years later It's now being used for my second child and there's barely a mark on it.

So I'd say we've definitely had value for money out of it. Cost per use must be minuscule and we'll be able to sell it on when we're finished with it.

MindyStClaire · 14/08/2019 09:53

YANBU to spend what it takes to get the pram you need, especially since you don't drive. Assuming you can afford it which you say you can. If you buy the right one, you'll use it for years and for subsequent children too.

I'm not sure if a Bugaboo would be the right thing for off roading, but I do think it's worth spending on a good pram that does all you need. We got an Uppababy Vista, with everything including car seat and base etc I think it was about £1100 but no regrets here. DD is 16 months and we still use it all the time. We have a light weight stroller for nursery but pretty much never take it out at weekends. DD is comfier in the Vista, we have more storage space and it's easier to push. She also still likes to be parent facing occasionally.

If you're properly rural though, you'll need something more specialised. I love my Vista but I wouldn't want to be pushing it on uneven ground for long stretches (short bits it's fine), and I wouldn't want to be taking it on a city bus either. It's a suburban pram! I suspect the Fox may be similar.

Mythreefavouritethings · 14/08/2019 09:54

No one will be looking at your status symbol, they will be too busy fussing over the baby inside it, but if this pram means that much to you then go for it 🤷‍♀️. Just be mindful, there are a whole load of other ‘Bugaboo Fox’ brands out there just waiting for your cash, at every step and as others have said, when these things aren’t going to be needed for long they are real money-drainers.

Aprinceinapaupersgrave · 14/08/2019 09:55

I bought an expensive travel system for my first child. It isn't long before they are in the pushchair. We bought a £30 pushchair from Asda for a day out in London as travel system pushchair was bulky and heavy and we were worried about getting on and off the trains. The plan was to use the cheap pushchair then take it to the charity shop. It was the most amazing pushchair. So light and compact. Comfy for DC. Excellent shopping basket. Used it for future DC too.

Minai · 14/08/2019 09:55

I agree with previous posters that said you will almost certainly want to switch to a lightweight stroller when the baby is about a year old. I honestly wouldn’t spend that much on a pram especially if your husband isn’t on board. Could you look for a second hand one as a compromise?

I bought a big travel system with my first and have switched to a double now that I have ds2. I am going to sell my original pram as I can say in all honesty I will not be using it when I no longer need the double. Far to big and cumbersome and I will switch to a single umbrella fold stroller.

Amber2019 · 14/08/2019 09:57

Get it and then sell it on, nothing wrong with wanting a fancy pram. I did with my first, the second was around 500 and I knew I'd sell it on. You wont use it for 3 years, by the time my tall boy was 10 months we got a stroller. The travel systems are too big, bulky and heavy. I dont drive so needed something small and lightweight,that could go on and off buses easily and didn't take llI could put bags over the handles etc. My son was walking at 10 months so hardly wanted to be in it anyway. 18 months now and we rarely even use the stroller, he has his backpack with reigns.