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Original poster

is my friend ureasonable for starting a royal mail petition personally i dont think so

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lillaura123 · 03/08/2007 21:35

my friend started a petition on the 10 downing street website about Royal Mail
to Stop them Striking all the time.Please sign it here is the link to sign.
petitions.pm.gov.uk/RoyalMailStrikes/

since we have started signing she has suffered from horrible comments from posties etc - come on girls please help and sign up xx

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FillydoraTonks · 04/08/2007 10:35

oh jesus

YES she is, utterly unreasonable

God almighty, the basic stuff we take for granted...

Original poster
lillaura123 · 04/08/2007 10:35

oh not not presents from us i wouldnt order them due to all of this - family members abroad etc

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FlameFlamingo · 04/08/2007 10:36

So your documentation didn't turn up ever, or turned up a day late and the council only gave you 24/48 hours to respond? What if you had been away?

Methinks if that is true then it is a council issue and sod all to do with strikes!

Original poster
lillaura123 · 04/08/2007 10:36

was that aimed at me - How is that basic stuff ?????

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FlameFlamingo · 04/08/2007 10:37

Family member from abroad presents often turn up late, that could be international postage problems. But again, you knew there were the strikes so didn't order... you knew family was abroad so why not mention it?

Original poster
lillaura123 · 04/08/2007 10:38

meaning that it was delayed to be delivered to me and they have not recievd my return - dont get me wrong i was in all of a panic about it and went on website to email them which i have and phoned them thats when they told me that it had been cancelled and that i would be held bk as other applicants forms had reached them by the deadline

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Saturn74 · 04/08/2007 10:38

Has the number of signatories increased at all since you started your threads about the petition?

FillydoraTonks · 04/08/2007 10:39

you know what?

the fact that the country is clearly SO reliant on the posties suggests to me that we do rather NEED them, that, like teachers, nurses and the rest, its a bit crap to keep them on miniscule pay rises etc etc (no I know its not just about pay)

And fgs don't spend your kid's bday shopping! At 2 they will have NO idea anyway. Take them to the park and tell them about the tolpuddle martyrs instead.

peanutbear · 04/08/2007 10:39

I just want to state my usual postmn is great he is friendly and helpful

He knows it can takes time to get to the door with the children, he loves my dog!! and he knows what time I am on the shool run and waits for me if its an important parcel and ocasionally signs for my letters for me and pushes them through the door

I know this may not be right but it helps me out a lot

I do think the way roal mal handles post is getting worse post increasingly gets lost and is very late but this isnt the fault of the post person its management they either need more competition or they need to be non profit making as alot of people rely on this service and they work such unsociable hours we should make sure they have job security and competitive rates of pay or give them a choice of moe companies to work for who will give them this

Original poster
lillaura123 · 04/08/2007 10:39

i did inform them thats the problem, think three weeks is long enough dont you ?- but what can i do cant chase the posties round can i ?

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Saturn74 · 04/08/2007 10:40

Did it not occur to you to use recorded delivery, so you could prove the posting date?

Aitch · 04/08/2007 10:40

oh yes, it's definitely the media's fault. definitely not yours for not having a clue before wading into this and starting petitions...

it is selfish, tbh, of your family members not to think 'little jimmy's birthday is on thursday but there's a widely publicised strike so i'll send the present early'. and if they didn't know there was a strike they must not be reading any newspapers, looking at the news online, listening to it on the radio or watching it on television. in which case it's hardly the fault of the media...

we, all of us, need to support people in their right to strike, because it could be us next. if you want to see that as selfish, go right ahead.

FlameFlamingo · 04/08/2007 10:43

With something as important as my home I send recorded, I phone, I go down in person (especially with all these nasty people pointlessly and selfishly striking ).

I don't just bung a second class stamp on it and hope for the best.

SilentTerror · 04/08/2007 10:44

I am totally behind the postmen,no matter what inconvenience it causes.Our postmen are fantastic,always a cheery word and go out of their way to give excellent service.
Good luck to them.

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 04/08/2007 10:47

a 2 year old has no idea quite franky. one present a couple of balloons is a fab birthday to them. anything more is for your sake not theirs.

these men are striking in order to get better working conditions, better pay, and as a result a better life for their families.

they don't get paid when they strike so it is not a decision made lightly.

The right to withdraw labour is one of the few bargaining tools left to workers in this country. To petition against it is just foolish and a sign of being either very poorly educated about the issue or immensely right wing and therefore a bit stupid anyway.

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 04/08/2007 10:47

frankly!

Original poster
lillaura123 · 04/08/2007 10:47

dont get me wrong my postaman is lovely - but i feel sorry for him doing all the work cause others are on strike ....

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Saturn74 · 04/08/2007 10:48

In fact, if you had thought to ask advice at your local post office, they would have been happy to go through the posting options for you.

Then you would have had the peace of mind of knowing that your vitally important documents were traceable.

Ensuring the safe arrival of documentation so important that it is vital to the housing situation of a family, requires a certain amount of responsibility and common sense from the sender.

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 04/08/2007 10:48

i think it is very poor of him to being doing the work of people who are striking.

scab i believe is the term for people like that.

Saturn74 · 04/08/2007 10:50

Sorry to repost this, but I don't think it has been answered yet.

"Has the number of signatories increased at all since you started your myriad of threads about the petition?"

peanutbear · 04/08/2007 10:51

thats not really fair he might not be a member of the union or he might be under severe financial hardship

chonky · 04/08/2007 10:51

'its not selfish to feel down about having to explain to a 2yo that his birthday will be spent shopping to make up for it as his presents didnt arrive'

FillydoraTonks · 04/08/2007 10:51

janitor (am forgetting peoples real names) you put it very well, as does aitch

no offence, laura, but I don't think you understand much about industrial relations. This is bigger than your kid's birthday, believe it or not. There are thousands of families livlihoods at stake and, as filch says, this is one of the few bargaining tools left.

Otherwise they wouldn't use it. They are not paid for strike days and strike activity is hardly the way to a smooth career ride. They are being bloody brave, tbh.

filchthemildmanneredjanitor · 04/08/2007 10:51

it's still crossing the picket line. and there are hardships funds for those in severe difficulty usually.

FillydoraTonks · 04/08/2007 10:53

feckin hell I missed that.

no laura, your postie is not bravely doing the work of those who are out of strike

he is a SCAB who is too bloody spineless to take the risk of striking himself, but will then roll over and take the benefits accrued by the strikers.

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