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To think Jeffrey Epstein “suicide” sounds unlikely

116 replies

Secretmeerjng · 10/08/2019 17:44

Just that really...

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StoneofDestiny · 10/08/2019 23:52

There were some allegations against prince Andrew a decade ago but all completely rebuffed. It’s a huge smear to say he was involved

Really?

ssd · 10/08/2019 23:52

Tengel, I see the Palace have joined the thread.

escapade1234 · 10/08/2019 23:57

I think suicide is entirely likely. What did he have to live for? A trial with all his dirty secrets exposed and the rest of his days fearing for his life in prison.

quizqueen · 10/08/2019 23:57

Andrew is probably pleased!

LegoPiecesEverywhere · 10/08/2019 23:58

@BlackberryBeret I can’t watch that video. It says it is restricted.

CilantroChili · 11/08/2019 00:08

It seems the guards on his watch were told to go home as “maintenance” was to be carried out in that area

BelleHathor · 11/08/2019 00:19

Documents unsealed yesterday from the case against Ghislaine Maxwell , Epstein's ex girlfriend and alleged fellow Trafficker are here :
www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Giuffre-unseal.pdf

www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250478-Giuffre-Exhibits.html

assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250270/Sweet-Opinion-Unsealed.pdf

stopgap · 11/08/2019 00:41

At the very least, prison guards (perhaps paid off) turned a blind eye to his suicide. If he’d tried to commit suicide two weeks ago—and given it was such a high profile case—he should have been monitored 24/7.

Durgasarrow · 11/08/2019 02:57

oh hell yes

Screamanger · 11/08/2019 03:24

The FBI have opened an investigation so I don't think we are the only ones.

An “investigation” which will find nothing

Cloglover · 11/08/2019 03:27

His lawyers would be able to release info if he was done away with. If someone knows too much their death doesn't make problems go away. Most likely staged suicide so he was released from prison, new identity given and relocated to lubed a life off the radar in South America.

echt · 11/08/2019 03:37

He would have been mauled to death in prison here as anyone convicted of sexual offenses is

Really? Do you have stats on the 100% murder rate you imply? I'll save you the trouble. No, you don't.

He'd be put in a protected wing with others of his kind.

FuriousVexation · 11/08/2019 03:40

His lawyers would be able to release info if he was done away with. If someone knows too much their death doesn't make problems go away. Most likely staged suicide so he was released from prison, new identity given and relocated to lubed a life off the radar in South America.

Who did you get this "info" from? Reading John Grisham novels?

Helpfindme · 11/08/2019 03:55

The photo isn't him!! People have lined up a side by side of him before death and on the stretcher, and the hair, eyebrows, nasal folds, nose and wrinkles are all wrong!! I wish I could share it here but obviously I can't.

Cloglover · 11/08/2019 04:19

Who did you get this "info" from? Reading John Grisham novels?

It's a theory. This thread is about his 'death' being a conspiracy theory.

isabellerossignol · 11/08/2019 05:09

I always read that sex offenders are terrified in prison because they're so detested but that doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me considering how many other prisoners will also be sex offenders and presumably they're housed together for that reason. I bet most sex offenders don't think they've even done anything wrong.

Mileysmiley · 11/08/2019 05:43

I wonder what is going to happen to R Kelly?

TumblingTumbleWeeds · 11/08/2019 06:12

I believe he had been luring powerful men to his island, filming them with the underage girls he'd provided them with and then he blackmailed the men.

Some say he was smuggled out the back door and a dead homeless man was put in the body bag. Most agree he was murdered.

Epstein was very arrogant and would have believed he'd beat the rap again. He expected his 'friends' to come to his rescue again. I don't think he would have killed himself before the trial. Not before. He would have sung like a canary first.

Kingoftheroad · 11/08/2019 06:18

Prince Andrew has been linked to this for years. Absolutely no way do I think that this was suicide. He hadn’t been tried yet!!.

Think, Princes Diana, David Kelly etc. Our intelligence services can make anything go away especially if connected to the Royals.

Andrews an arrogant idiot of a man

Mileysmiley · 11/08/2019 06:20

@Monestasi

I agree ... why should these rich powerful man get away with this?

However, they are going to be slaughtered by the press and mud sticks imho

bellinisurge · 11/08/2019 06:38

Didn't this person have a failed suicide attempt a couple of weeks ago? Surely that strongly suggests that he was self harming rather than murdered.

MyOtherProfile · 11/08/2019 07:45

In response to those comments about sex offenders getting attacked, from my experience as a volunteer prison visitor about 20 years ago true sex offenders and child molesters and bent cops were all kept in a separate section to minimise other prisoners getting their hands on them.

HorridHenrysNits · 11/08/2019 08:03

He had every reason to top himself but it's very convenient. And I think it's a realistic possibility that he wasn't being watched as well as he should've been on purpose.

DoctorTwo · 11/08/2019 08:04

Nellie The Elephant might get a few plays today, given who he was mates with.