To think some of the celebrities WANT the weird look they have

[MRex]

It seems like in the last year or two there's been an explosion in women getting plastic surgery that makes them look strange. Examples include Lauren Goodger and the Geordie Shore ones Charlotte and Marnie. Possibly there are loads more. The "look" has odd large lips, puffy cheeks, straining skin by the eyes and maybe some chin scraping. These once pretty women have effectively had their faces ruined.

DH insists the plastic surgeons have screwed up while exploiting some emotionally vulnerable women; he's convinced that the "look" is a mistake because nobody could want to look like that, so the surgeon(s) have overdone it and the women are just brazening it out. I agree the women clearly have body dysmorphia issues and a professional should have discussed get counselling instead, but I think they must also actively WANT to look like that or they'd be suing the plastic surgeons. So, AIBU to think this is the look they actually want even though it's so very strange?

On a connected topic, why all those trout pout poses on FB? Surely no-one seriously thinks they look attractive?

Tonnerre - to me I always think they look like 'this is what you will see while i'm giving you a blow job'.

Almost like advertising yourself.

@Biancadelrioisback I disagree. I live in Newcastle and it’s not a popular look. Not any more popular than any other parts of the UK anyway.

Besides I’m hoping there’s going to be a kick back from the inflated lips and cheeks look over the next few years. I am the mother of two young girls and I dread to think of them injecting anything into their skin.

I agree with all of the comments. I worry about young girls wanting to drastically change themselves. My son's gf is training in beauty and we were talking about lip fillers. She said she would love to have them. She is a beautiful young girl and definitely doesn't need them! But being in beauty I feel it would be very easy for her to get drawn into these kind of procedures.
On another note, why are eyebrows such a big thing now! I feel like such a rebel for only bothering to pluck them now and again!!

On a connected topic, why all those trout pout poses on FB? Surely no-one seriously thinks they look attractive?

Oh but they do think it looks attractive. An acquaintance of mine is forever posting 'trout pout' pictures that also just happen to have her knockers in shot and she looks awful. She's forever moaning about why she can't get a 'decent' boyfriend but it never seems to have occured to her that if she looks like a blow-up doll rather than a human woman she'll get men who want a blow-up doll rather than a human woman.

The whole aesthetic baffles me - why do you want to look better in a picture of yourself than you do in real life? Because that's what it all seems geared towards: looking good on FB/Instagram/SnapChat/the pictures on your lifestyle blog.

I have to admit, I look at certain slebs and think they way they look these days just doesn't add up. It's quite the conundrum...
But plenty of people have body modifications of some kind don't they? Some people have large gaps stretched into their earlobes, others have permanent designs on their skin. Both of which have the potential to look bloody awful. The tattoo you think looks beautiful could be grotesque to someone else. Is it really our place to slate others who have undergone cosmetic surgery? I can fully understand concern for their physical and mental health - that's fair enough. But if these are the changes that people want to make to their bodies then maybe we should live and let live?

I know at least 3 women in real life with lip fillers, tattooed on eyebrows and god knows what else. They all look ridiculous, two of them were above average attractiveness before they started messing with their faces and now they look swollen and out of proportion, I really feel sorry for them because their self esteem must have been very low in the first place.

I wonder how this squares with the do no harm ethos of the medical profession. The people who operated on Pete burns for example.

Well as they clearly have body dysmorphia, that's obv warped their perception of what's attractive:& they do probably think they look great. It's sad & they do look freakish. I don't know what it would take to make them realise, prob years of therapy.

I've no clue who Lauren Goodger is, but judging by those pictures of her, all the work has aged her by about two decades.

Such a shame, she was so lovely looking before.

as another poster alluded to, it just means many of these women are replacing "uniquely pretty" with "generically attractive". Your face is very much part of your individuality, and unless you have some major issue, why would you want to smash that up.

I genuinely find it all so upsetting. Let's not kid ourselves - it's not changing fashions, it's the expectations pushed on women by well, everyone, judging by the thousands of pictures picking apart how women look.

Women aren't allowed to age, we aren't allowed to have hair not on our heads, we're not allowed to have any sort of blemish lest we be seen as not looking after ourselves. But god forbid we go too far - men also don't like too much make up . I work in an office with lots of young women, younger than 25. So many of them have had stuff done to their faces, wear fake eyelashes, fake tan, fake nails, extensions....the lips are the worst though. There's at least three women I see regularly who look bizarre.

I saw this pic on Pinterest the other day which kind of sums it up for me. You could probably name every single famous man who's had too much surgery as there isn't many - not so the women.

To be fair Simon Cowell looks pretty awful too.

It is not a new thing though, sadly.
The Bride of Wildenstein comes to mind. (Lesley or is it Leslie? Ash had huge lips too).

I worry a little that even talking about it is again criticising them for their looks. I almost don't mind someone trading their uniquely pretty looks for generically attractive (as PP said), I think again that an ethical doctor should have recommended counselling instead, but a tweak to a nose or something probably is equivalent to getting a tattoo and is up to individual taste. The excessive blow-up doll look is in a different category for me, because a doctor has not done a small tweak that was arguably better not done, that doctor has made drastic alterations to their looks and made them look terrible.

I saw Scary Spice on tv the other day and didn't even realise it was her until they said her name. She looked just strange.

I find it sad that so many young women, not just famous ones think big puffy lips, puffy cheeks and ridiculous eyebrows look good. They don't, they just look like freaks.

Even girls that don't have work done often are plastered in fake tan or makeup, false eyelashes, slug eyebrows

I work in an office with lots of young women, younger than 25. So many of them have had stuff done to their faces, wear fake eyelashes, fake tan, fake nails, extensions....the lips are the worst though. There's at least three women I see regularly who look bizarre

^ Yes I also find it oddly upsetting. Trading their uniquely pretty looks for a fake-looking generic stereotype - cannot really fathom the reasoning behind it. To be fair there have always been 'fashions' - but when normal women start injecting themselves with stuff that changes the shape of their faces I'm just . 9/10 it looks 'orrible too.

FWIW Lauren goodger is pretty open about how much she hates her look now and knows she’s gone ott but is addicted to trying to make it better again. I think that says it al really!

I can’t eblieve how many people get lip fillers now!! I personally would rather spend the money on food 😂

Yup, it's the dollar.

I have been vocal professionally that cosmetic facial botox is unethical as it paralyses muscle, and muscle tone is what keeps a face young. Also when you paralyse a nerve to 'problem' muscles, you also paralyse the muscles of the blood vessels that supply the face. Smoking ages skin because it deprives skin of blood supply - just like botox.

A friend just posted a photo of her daughter's 18th party. Daughter was sporting freshly plumped lips, and looking generically crap. I couldn't like it.

I remember falling out of 'love' with Steve Majors when he fixed his nose. We are perfect in our imperfection. And I am convinced that when the elite have persuaded the underclass to embrace plasticity, they will abandon it. Wealthy people can afford to turn back the clock on surgery. The less wealthy? Less so.

I'll be looking like a normal 90 year old by then, and that's fine by me. But if you insist on being defined by your looks, let it not include poisoning yourself on a scale not seen since lead in face paint.

A friend just posted a photo of her daughter's 18th party. Daughter was sporting freshly plumped lips, and looking generically crap. I couldn't like it

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Agree with your excellent post ChristmasFluff, also that its unethical. Btw, botox also helps create that horrible dracula pallid "waxy" look to the face - something to do with lack of oxygen or something, so it can ironically be ageing!

And if it goes wrong, and it does sometimes, you're up shit creek.

Does anyone think it may be that it is meant to look obvious?

For example in the 1969 /70's tanning became fashionable as it showed you had wealth to go abroad on holidays.

Now doing stuff to your face shows you have disposable income to spend on yourself???

Brad Pitt has had work done though.

Also, you are generally seeing faces with too much work in the media. Well done Botox or lip filler is hard to tell.

... unless it goes wrong.

Not impressed by brad Pitt either.

Maybe it’s almost impossible to resist for a Hollywood actor. But the rest of normal humanity who do it are labouring under a narcissistic illusion to think anyone is impressed.

Brad Pitt might have had work done, but it’s not visible work and he’s over 50. It’s a bit different to women under 30 plumping their lips and stretching their faces beyond all recognition.

Nicole Kidman is looking very strange these days too