To think adults believing in ghosts are odd

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Hi,

Aibu to think grown adults believing in ghosts is a bit odd?

I have an acquaintance who is also going on about going on ghost hunts and 'investigations' at supposed haunted sights. Of course they always seem to come back from them and say the evenings where 'quiet'.

I feel it's a bit odd that a grown adult can believe in this sort of thing. They're obviously not hurting anyone with this hobby but I find it so strange they're certain that ghosts exist.

EdWinchester

Reminds of UFO sightings, the cheeky bastards travel across the galaxy to harass some poor lonely sod walking down a country lane or a lone farmer in Idaho. They never land in Hyde Park.

Yes, if anyone I loved came back and all they wanted to do was tell me stuff I knew already, I’d be a bit pissed off! I know I have a brown front door......

Reminds of UFO sightings, the cheeky bastards travel across the galaxy to harass some poor lonely sod walking down a country lane or a lone farmer in Idaho. They never land in Hyde Park.

Yup, pesky ghosts, always at night, always shadowy, always to a tiny audience. There is absolutely no reason for a ghost not to turn up n a Wednesday afternoon in Asda, walk straight into the display of Pickled Onions and reappear on the other side of the aisle, from the economy own brand spaghetti hoops in a tomato flavoured sauce, in front of hundreds of shoppers. All caught on the shops CCTV system and watched by an amazed world on the evening news.

Why no ghosts at the scenes of mass death, the sites of the various London bombings, Hillsborough, world trade centre etc. We should be falling over them on hospital wards. But nothing. Yet the young girl at the old coach house who died in 1850, she gets to be a ghost, just one measly death.

It's utterly preposterous.

Ghosts.....ffs! Grow up.

@BertrandRussell wait... you also loved your family... and liked to travel?

Well, could everyone on here who believes there is a theoretical possibility they will become a ghost at least practice a bit, like Patrick Swayze in Ghost? You know, pushing coins around, typing on other people’s computers etc? That way, at least those of us who may be being haunted can expect something a bit more lively than the occasional disappearing earring or creaky floorboard.

Absolutely @SperanzaWilde

Imagine the delight you'll feel showing up silly non believers with your whizzy tricks!

There are reported sightings of ghosts at places where death often happens certainly in hospitals

And emotional imprints of where massacres have taken place this is something that has been written about throughout history

Many I am sure have experienced the feeling of sadness in a place that we can’t explain that heavy oppressive atmosphere - emotions that are left behind

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed thanks for answering the question! I'm an agnostic, don't think there is a god but open to the possibility. However I'm pretty sure that ghosts are not a supernatural manifestation of dead people but creations of the brain in response to certain phenomena such as infrasound (too low for human hearing) and electromagnetic fields.

I don’t believe in ghosts per se, but when I found my DB’s body I heard a “voice” reassuring me - not his voice (although I felt that it was him) and not out loud. I heard the “voice” again in the ambulance. For that brief period between finding the body and the ambulance arriving (about 20 mins) I felt he was there. I have not felt his presence since and I do not believe he now exists either here or in some other realm.

A rationale explanation might be that this was my brain’s way of coping with the shock. It certainly felt real and was very reassuring at the time and has been since. I have come to believe that maybe consciousness exists for a some time after death, and possibly that traumatic events amplify the effect. I don’t tell many people in IRL because they look at you oddly, but it was an incredibly powerful experience.

@DamnShesaSexyChick pls tell us the story !

Lifecraft - actually there are reports of ghosts at scenes of mass deaths - e.g. battlegrounds etc.

WTC and concentration camps etc - not necessarily ghosts but my best friend (American and a New Yorker) doesn't like visiting Ground Zero as she finds it/found it eerily quiet - and isn't it at concentration camps also eerily quiet and birds don't sing etc?!

EnthusiamisDisturbed

Peter Ackroyd - London - The Biography (I think it's that one) has chapters on certain areas of London - think Victoria Street etc - where there are periods of silence - I think he says due to leylines etc - and where there are a lot of emotions left behind- I think there was a women's prison on Victoria Street.

Strangely though if you think of Tyburn (Marble Arch?) which was London's main 'hanging centre' with the Tyburn Tree - I've never considered this to be a sad place - in fact the opposite!

isn't it at concentration camps also eerily quiet and birds don't sing etc?!

No, that's a complete lie that only gullible people believe. Someone made it up and people bought into it, because it backed up the myth they wanted to believe.

I've been to Auschwitz and the birds sing normally. Why wouldn't they. I also saw a couple of rabbits playing. They have no idea what took place there 75 years ago.

It is an eerie place, because I know what went on there, and my mind can't help thinking about the misery that took place on the sight. Nothing supernatural about that at all, just a human trait. I make it eerie, not the place itself.

On the other hand, football fans are located in the Leppings Lane end at Hillsborough and are very happy to celebrate when their team scores, and the very spot where so many died in terrible circumstances.

“Lifecraft - actually there are reports of ghosts at scenes of mass deaths - e.g. battlegrounds etc.”

Of course there are. Where else would imaginative people’s imaginations get triggered?

actually there are reports of ghosts at scenes of mass deaths - e.g. battlegrounds etc.

Reports? People can literally report whatever they like. Where is the evidence?

I wonder if anyone who had absolutely no clue about what happened at a battleground, ground zero, concentration camp, “certain areas of London” etc. would experience those feelings of eeriness, sadness and quiet? I doubt it.

If people seriously believe birds don't sing at concentration camps, based on something they were told or read, then it only goes to prove that people are very open to believing any old cobblers, especially if it confirms the rubbish they already believe.

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It wasn't the 'mossy' green though, it was definitely a teal colour, must have been last season or something!

Shit wrong thread, sorry

@managedmis Don't worry, it made more sense that half the guff posted on this thread!

I've seen a ghost. It was daytime and I saw what seemed to be a patch of fog but a woman wearing old fashioned clothes was walking in it. I watched for a couple of minutes and then the fog dissipated.

Goose- have your heard of pareidolia?

I think it fills a psychological need, I know a lot of educated competent people who swear they've experienced ghosts. I think if they existed there would be some credible measurable evidence and the paranormal is not the most likely explanation.

maybe ghosts are psychological ghosts - the manifested form as a representation of what we are afraid of /longing for....what is in the inner shadows of our soul, know or unknown (subconsciously influencing perception (Gestalt Psychology and our ability to see things in form and familiar patterns...e.g faces)...............

like if you are recently bereaved you may find signs of a loved one, or if you are holding onto deeper emotional/ psychological trauma you may see ghoulish faces or other things to be afraid of

scaring myself now - and my little girls doll is staring at me with fixed blank eyes

When i was about 8 or 9, I saw the shadow/silhouette of a man wearing a hat in a doorway of my childhood house as I was going downstairs, black against the sunset through the window behind him. I didn't feel afraid. I told my mum and she checked - nothing and no-one there.

Years and years (like 25 years) later, I read about "Shadow People" on the internet. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_person. I had never heard of them prior to this, and the internet wasn't even around when I was young.

But I still don't believe in ghosts. I know what I saw, but I believe there must be a rational explanation for it, though I don't know what that might be. I guess the gut reason I don't believe in ghosts, apart from all the rational arguments against, is that my parent and sibling both died in the last few years and I can't believe they wouldn't have visited me if ghosts do exist.