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Massive bust up with interfering mother

107 replies

Sicktobloodydeath · 30/07/2019 19:13

NC for this.

I’m coming to the end of my pregnancy, first child, first grandchild for my mum and dad.

Dad has (as usual) been amazing, laid back, respectful of my wishes, no questions asked - brilliant.

Mother however has from the start questioned me, went against my wishes, stuck her nose in where it’s not wanted, made everything about her, dictated to me and just generally pissed me off.

My mother and I have generally had a negative relationship for as long as I can remember, we are very different people and just don’t get along.

So not to drip feed here are a few of the things that have pissed me off from the start.

  • asking repeatedly to come to scans despite being told I’d rather it was just between me and DP but of course I’d get photos for her to keep. Again, we don’t have a close relationship.
  • I don’t like things being plastered on social media - I find it intrusive and unnecessary. As far as I’m concerned, if I don’t see/speak to you on a regular basis then you don’t need to know my business. For this reason I only have very close friends and family on my SM. Mother however, has people she can’t stand, doesn’t trust, doesn’t bother with etc all for the “one-up-manship” of smug posts about how fantastic life is.
I respectfully told her not to be posting anything on social media, and not to be telling anybody else (her friends) that I was pregnant until I was past 12 weeks. She was annoyed by this, questioned me why, asked me multiple times if she could put my scan pictures on her IG - after me saying no several times.
  • Then, when I started telling people outside of my immediate family, I got a phone call from her asking me why I never told her it wasn’t a secret anymore and that I was out of order because she wanted to start telling people herself.
I said to her that I wasn’t aware I needed to inform her each time I told somebody I was expecting and that I’d still appreciate if she didn’t scream it from the rooftops (I did this in a nice way, as I fully understand how excited she is) the reason I asked this is because she loves to share information with anyone who will listen and again I’m quite a private person. I did explain she could tell her friends as that’s not a problem
  • shortly after this conversation I went on IG to find I’d been tagged in a post by somebody. This person was the son of my mothers friend from college, who I don’t speak to or know very well, nor has my mother saw said friend for about 13 years. My mother had contacted her son, to tell him to tell his mum I was expecting. Again, I don’t even know this person but he had somehow obtained a photo of me and DP and posted a baby announcement on his own SM. I obviously knew straight away that this had came from my mother so called her to confront her about it - ended up in one of many bust ups and an argument about how I was “suppressing her natural instincts”, “taking away her joy”, “not letting her be involved” - I hadn’t even told all of my own friends yet and I had some stranger posting about me on SM! It ended on me telling her to keep her mouth shut as it wasn’t her news to be shouting about.
  • she made a big deal out of “sitting me and DP down” to discuss babysitting the baby overnight when it’s newborn, I told her quite clearly this would not be happening as baby will 1. Be getting used to new surroundings 2. Need me 3. Be breastfed. And 4. In what world does a mother let their newborn just go and sleep 15+ miles away from them?? This of course was taken as me pushing her out.
  • next came the gender. My DPs (very large) family are very serious about not wanting to know the sex of any babies due, so for this reason we decided that myself and my DP would find out but keep it to ourselves to avoid any of family slipping up to DPs family etc. To throw people off scent, we decided we would just tell people we never ended up finding out, therefore if we said he/she in conversation it wouldn’t be obvious.
My mother called me on the day of the 20 week scan crying (literally) saying I wasn’t including her on anything, she felt pushed out blah blah. So out of kindness, I said to her “this is a secret but we are going to find out the sex of baby, don’t tell anyone because we don’t want to slip up” and gave the reasons above. She was happy i told her that, was fine with not knowing the sex, and agreed to keep it a secret that we found out. Next thing I know is I’ve got my grandmother on the phone asking to know what the baby is because my mother told her we were finding out, both of them were then trying to trip us up on revealing what we’re having. I confronted my mother and she absolutely flew off of the handle, saying I was unfair to expect her to keep it a secret (she agreed!), I was unfair to exclude my grandmother, I’m a nightmare during pregnancy (every other person in my life has commented on how laid back and easy going I have been), that I’m a nasty piece of work and her words she wants to know “fuck all” else about the baby.
  • my partner then slipped up to my mother by saying “she” when talking about the baby, this was the whole reason why we weren’t telling anybody we found out. Obviously my mother took this and ran. Since then it’s been “I can’t WAIT for the baby to be born so I can tell everyone I’ve known all along” and tbh, I don’t believe for a minute she hasn’t told anyone. DP has since told my dad and his sister that were expecting a girl - so the whole secret has gone to shit basically, but his parents still really don’t want to know, which I respect
  • last week was my baby shower, since people have already started finding out it’s a girl, I’m honestly past caring about the secret, so told my two aunts what I was expecting, my mother allegedly overheard this, came storming across the room telling me how rude and disrespectful I was to tell my aunts and not DPs mum. I had a bit of a go at her and told her DPs mum doesn’t want to know (she already knows this) and to keep her nose out and don’t be so rude to shout at me at my baby shower. She went off sulking but then told my nan, her friend, and her friends daughter I’m expecting a girl.
  • today we’ve ended up having a huge argument about the baby shower and she was name calling, saying she’s glad I’m having a girl because she’ll be a bitch like me (disgusting comment), I’m disrespectful, I do nothing but leave her out, I should be consulting her before telling people the sex, I should’ve consulted her in the earlier days when I was telling people I was expecting. It ended up in a massive row and tbh I’m glad I got it all off my chest but as usual she’s ended up crying and guilt tripping me.

Sorry for the long post but these are just a few of the many things she’s done during the pregnancy. She’s so dramatic and negative about everything at this point I don’t even want her being around the baby passing on the negativity. AIBU to not speak to her for a while?

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Thehop · 30/07/2019 19:18

My mum took over completely

We’re now NC and it’s bliss

Dottysmum18 · 30/07/2019 19:19

Bloodly hell it was awful reading that let alone living it
She is gunna be one of those crazy people cuttibg ur babies hair without asking you

fedup21 · 30/07/2019 19:23

I definitely wouldn’t have told her you were finding out the baby’s sex but keeping it a secret!

I would see her as infrequently as I could and minimise any drama.

Aquamarine1029 · 30/07/2019 19:25

I would go very very low contact and she wouldn't be seeing much of my baby, I assure you.

Ozziewozzie · 30/07/2019 19:26

I can completely see where you’re coming from.
Is there any way you could set her a task to do something so she feels needed and important. It’s highly unlikely your mum will ever change but sometimes it’s pays to sort of play her at her own game.
Maybe she could rush off and research Prams and Car seats then present you with all info?

MushySeas · 30/07/2019 19:27

You need boundaries.

Stop sharing details with her, stop telling her so much like dates of scans etc. Scale right back on contact, especially when she breaks your trust. She needs to understand there will be consequences to breaking trust, and no means no.

I'm really surprised you shared the sex of the baby with her, when you preferred not to. It is okay to put yourself first.

You are not responsible for your mother - her feelings, reactions and happiness are her own responsibility. Put your own family unit first.

My DM has a personality disorder and we have an okay relationship now only because of clear boundaries that I implement.

QueenofallIsee · 30/07/2019 19:29

I think your mistake is expecting your Mum to be different. By your own admission she has always been the same - you are doing brilliantly at setting boundaries but still let her push you that leetle bit more (such as being manipulated into telling her the sex to pacify her tantrum). The problem there is she won't accept that for what it is, a concession, she thinks it is her right and she won't be happy with you having ANY boundaries. You can't reach a compromise with someone like that so my advice is don't try! Stick to your guns, don't invite her to stuff, don't confide in her and remember she won't appreciate any of you points so don't be manipulated into giving her an inch. She won't care or see it as a good thing, she wants it all or nothing will be good enough

Enjoy you last few weeks of pregnancy on your terms

Sicktobloodydeath · 30/07/2019 19:33

Thanks for your replies, I’m glad you agree as I’m feeling quite guilty as usual.

It’s surprising that she acts this way as she has THE MOST toxic relationship with my grandmother, who was interfering when she had me, even got physical with her on two occasions. Now they have jokes with each other on what “mischief” they’ll get up to with my baby (like giving her fizzy drinks and chocolate at 6 months like my GM did with my brother). I’ve made it quite clear that if they attempt behaviour like that then they simply will not see the baby but they don’t seem to think I’m being serious.

Also worth mentioning mum and dad aren’t together and my dad thinks I should just cut contact completely

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Aquamarine1029 · 30/07/2019 19:36

Your dad is right. Stop thinking that your mother might change or that you can somehow manage her. You can't.

cuppycakey · 30/07/2019 19:37

I agree with your dad.

EarlyModernParent · 30/07/2019 19:38

Shrug her off. Questions, guilt trips, tears, all of it. Even if you are secretly angry or upset, just pretend to shrug it off. Tell her nothing, concede nothing. Never respond to emotional blackmail.
Hard, but effective. When you stop caring, or appear to, your mother will have no power.
Give her a daft nickname that you and your DH can use (Howabout ‘Mothra’ from the Godzilla films?) and remind yourself what petty nonsense your mother’s antics are.

NCforthis2019 · 30/07/2019 19:39

She’s going to kidnap your daughter! I wouldn’t event tell her when you give birth. She sounds Insane.

Bluetrews25 · 30/07/2019 19:39

YANBU. I agree with your Dad about stopping all contact.

QueenofallIsee · 30/07/2019 19:39

Cutting all contact is a big step and you need to be emotionally ready - your Mum might be manageable with certain conditions, you certainly seem to be able to assert yourself and draw your lines, even if you slip up sometimes. Go very low contact and see how you get on? Does it improve your well being? Can you manage the drama? Can you hold her off around baby without feeling pilloried?

Sunburntnoseandears · 30/07/2019 19:42

Who voted yabu???
Is your dm on here op??

justasking111 · 30/07/2019 19:44

Do not tell her when you have to go to the hospital, she will harass the staff there, and drive you up the wall. Do not tell her when you are coming home, she will arrive before you. Treat her like a nosy neighbour, be polite but do not share anything.

Personally I would go No contact, but that is because it took me decades to stand up to mine and do so.

MrsGrannyWeatherwax · 30/07/2019 19:44

That is so much drama that tbh I’d be definitely going LC but it’s a difficult and individual choice to make.

Congratulations on your pregnancy and I hope you are able to relax and enjoy it all

Sicktobloodydeath · 30/07/2019 19:46

She finds me too assertive 🙄 and thinks I’m being a bitch but I just refuse to get into the cycle her and my grandmother have, I have no problem not speaking to her.

In times that we don’t speak, my life is totally drama free, positive and easy! But then when she sends me the usual long text on how much I’ve hurt her (and I don’t doubt that I have, she is very emotional) I start to feel guilty and pacify her. It’s difficult because whilst I do love her, I really dislike her. I know it kills her when we don’t speak and I only imagine this will worsen once baby is born, but I just will not have this life long cycle there’s no way!

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EagleAndTheHawk · 30/07/2019 19:47

I'm with your dad on this one, she sounds terrible and it'll only get worse once your baby is born. For your sake, I'd cut her out.

Sunburntnoseandears · 30/07/2019 19:47

Ime being a shit dm makes for an even shitter dgm....
*been nc for years and she doesn't see my dc...

Sewrainbow · 30/07/2019 19:48

I think your dad has the right idea!

It's up to you whether you do it not but she won't change as I suspect you dad realises.

Whatever you do don't allow her or your grandmother to be alone with the child, you can't trust them and you don't want them to poison you dc mind against you or perpetuate this messed up dynamic.

Sicktobloodydeath · 30/07/2019 19:48

@justasking111 she was trying to tell my DP she wants to be at the birth, he would never stand for that and rightly so. I made a joke and said something like “mum, I won’t even be telling you when I’m in labour never mind being there” she got super offended and thinks it’s appalling that I’m not going to tell her.

I know for a straight fact she would be blowing up my DPs phone for updates and demanding I have pain relief 🙄

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SAHD2020 · 30/07/2019 19:53

Your mum sounds a total nightmare.....and that's putting it politely. Seriously I know we have only heard 1 side of the story but if even half of what you say is accurate she is a complete nightmare and the sooner you NC the better. She will take over your new born and push her way into everything. You need to distance yourself immediately.

PepsiLola · 30/07/2019 19:53

I think you know that you need to cut her out, the comment where you said when we are not in touch my life is drama free...

Be careful about your mental health after the baby is born, if your mum is being this way

mineofuselessinformation · 30/07/2019 19:54

I'd be inclined to send a message saying:
'Well done, mum. After the last drama you caused about my pregnancy (and that's not the first one), you have made sure I won't be telling you anything else.'
If she calls you, don't answer - block her if necessary, unless and until she can clearly demonstrate that she understands this is your pregnancy and your baby.
If she asks how you are, direct or through DP, which I wouldn't put past her, just agree with him that you will both say 'fine, thanks' and leave it at that.
Any other questions get answered with 'I don't know' or 'I'm not sure' if you haven't gone NC - and stick to it.
As for needing her permission, if you are speaking to her, laugh at her the next time she mentions it and tell her not to be so ridiculous.