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Massive bust up with interfering mother

107 replies

Sicktobloodydeath · 30/07/2019 19:13

NC for this.

I’m coming to the end of my pregnancy, first child, first grandchild for my mum and dad.

Dad has (as usual) been amazing, laid back, respectful of my wishes, no questions asked - brilliant.

Mother however has from the start questioned me, went against my wishes, stuck her nose in where it’s not wanted, made everything about her, dictated to me and just generally pissed me off.

My mother and I have generally had a negative relationship for as long as I can remember, we are very different people and just don’t get along.

So not to drip feed here are a few of the things that have pissed me off from the start.

  • asking repeatedly to come to scans despite being told I’d rather it was just between me and DP but of course I’d get photos for her to keep. Again, we don’t have a close relationship.
  • I don’t like things being plastered on social media - I find it intrusive and unnecessary. As far as I’m concerned, if I don’t see/speak to you on a regular basis then you don’t need to know my business. For this reason I only have very close friends and family on my SM. Mother however, has people she can’t stand, doesn’t trust, doesn’t bother with etc all for the “one-up-manship” of smug posts about how fantastic life is.
I respectfully told her not to be posting anything on social media, and not to be telling anybody else (her friends) that I was pregnant until I was past 12 weeks. She was annoyed by this, questioned me why, asked me multiple times if she could put my scan pictures on her IG - after me saying no several times.
  • Then, when I started telling people outside of my immediate family, I got a phone call from her asking me why I never told her it wasn’t a secret anymore and that I was out of order because she wanted to start telling people herself.
I said to her that I wasn’t aware I needed to inform her each time I told somebody I was expecting and that I’d still appreciate if she didn’t scream it from the rooftops (I did this in a nice way, as I fully understand how excited she is) the reason I asked this is because she loves to share information with anyone who will listen and again I’m quite a private person. I did explain she could tell her friends as that’s not a problem
  • shortly after this conversation I went on IG to find I’d been tagged in a post by somebody. This person was the son of my mothers friend from college, who I don’t speak to or know very well, nor has my mother saw said friend for about 13 years. My mother had contacted her son, to tell him to tell his mum I was expecting. Again, I don’t even know this person but he had somehow obtained a photo of me and DP and posted a baby announcement on his own SM. I obviously knew straight away that this had came from my mother so called her to confront her about it - ended up in one of many bust ups and an argument about how I was “suppressing her natural instincts”, “taking away her joy”, “not letting her be involved” - I hadn’t even told all of my own friends yet and I had some stranger posting about me on SM! It ended on me telling her to keep her mouth shut as it wasn’t her news to be shouting about.
  • she made a big deal out of “sitting me and DP down” to discuss babysitting the baby overnight when it’s newborn, I told her quite clearly this would not be happening as baby will 1. Be getting used to new surroundings 2. Need me 3. Be breastfed. And 4. In what world does a mother let their newborn just go and sleep 15+ miles away from them?? This of course was taken as me pushing her out.
  • next came the gender. My DPs (very large) family are very serious about not wanting to know the sex of any babies due, so for this reason we decided that myself and my DP would find out but keep it to ourselves to avoid any of family slipping up to DPs family etc. To throw people off scent, we decided we would just tell people we never ended up finding out, therefore if we said he/she in conversation it wouldn’t be obvious.
My mother called me on the day of the 20 week scan crying (literally) saying I wasn’t including her on anything, she felt pushed out blah blah. So out of kindness, I said to her “this is a secret but we are going to find out the sex of baby, don’t tell anyone because we don’t want to slip up” and gave the reasons above. She was happy i told her that, was fine with not knowing the sex, and agreed to keep it a secret that we found out. Next thing I know is I’ve got my grandmother on the phone asking to know what the baby is because my mother told her we were finding out, both of them were then trying to trip us up on revealing what we’re having. I confronted my mother and she absolutely flew off of the handle, saying I was unfair to expect her to keep it a secret (she agreed!), I was unfair to exclude my grandmother, I’m a nightmare during pregnancy (every other person in my life has commented on how laid back and easy going I have been), that I’m a nasty piece of work and her words she wants to know “fuck all” else about the baby.
  • my partner then slipped up to my mother by saying “she” when talking about the baby, this was the whole reason why we weren’t telling anybody we found out. Obviously my mother took this and ran. Since then it’s been “I can’t WAIT for the baby to be born so I can tell everyone I’ve known all along” and tbh, I don’t believe for a minute she hasn’t told anyone. DP has since told my dad and his sister that were expecting a girl - so the whole secret has gone to shit basically, but his parents still really don’t want to know, which I respect
  • last week was my baby shower, since people have already started finding out it’s a girl, I’m honestly past caring about the secret, so told my two aunts what I was expecting, my mother allegedly overheard this, came storming across the room telling me how rude and disrespectful I was to tell my aunts and not DPs mum. I had a bit of a go at her and told her DPs mum doesn’t want to know (she already knows this) and to keep her nose out and don’t be so rude to shout at me at my baby shower. She went off sulking but then told my nan, her friend, and her friends daughter I’m expecting a girl.
  • today we’ve ended up having a huge argument about the baby shower and she was name calling, saying she’s glad I’m having a girl because she’ll be a bitch like me (disgusting comment), I’m disrespectful, I do nothing but leave her out, I should be consulting her before telling people the sex, I should’ve consulted her in the earlier days when I was telling people I was expecting. It ended up in a massive row and tbh I’m glad I got it all off my chest but as usual she’s ended up crying and guilt tripping me.

Sorry for the long post but these are just a few of the many things she’s done during the pregnancy. She’s so dramatic and negative about everything at this point I don’t even want her being around the baby passing on the negativity. AIBU to not speak to her for a while?

OP posts:
sonjadog · 30/07/2019 19:55

She really doesn't sound like she brings anything positive to your life. I think you are doing really well with putting in boundaries, but it does sound like you need to also reduce contact. Even if you feel you still need to see her occasionally, stop sharing details of your life and decisions with her.

StoneofDestiny · 30/07/2019 19:55

I'd drop contact for your own sake, at least til the baby is born.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 30/07/2019 19:57

Christ on a bike.
I got really angry on your behalf just reading that. I think my hormones would have expressed themselves through my palm on the side of her face.

Just delete her number and block her on social media. You won't believe the peace and quiet you've been missing.

Don't wait for your relationship to get any better, or for her to change, because it ain't happening.

AuntyMarysBigRedPants · 30/07/2019 19:59

I agree with your dad
She brings nothing to the party
I would hate to see my daughter grow up and witness such vile manipulate behaviour

Autumnbrownie · 30/07/2019 20:03

Stop all contact with her, don't let her meet your daughter or even see pictures of her.

She will ruin your life and your daughters life if you put a stop to her, if that was my mother I'd file a restraining order to keep her away from myself and my baby.

Absofrigginlootly · 30/07/2019 20:05

You need to read the website daughters of narcissistic mothers and seriously consider the level of contact your baby has - remember;

To toxic for you? Too toxic for a child.

foreverhanging · 30/07/2019 20:06

Cut contact op. She's said some awful things about you!

Imagine saying to your own child she’s glad I’m having a girl because she’ll be a bitch like me

Nasty piece of work.

INeedAFlerken · 30/07/2019 20:06

I would just tell her flat out at this point that her behaviour is making you think long and hard about maintaining ANY kind of relationship with her in future. And if she calls you names like 'bitch' again and starts trying to take over everything again and/or make unreasonable demands about your pregnancy or baby, then you will be going no contact, possibly permanently.

SmartPlay · 30/07/2019 20:08

WTF!
There seems to be something seriously wrong with you mother, this is just sick! I'm impressed you stood out as long as you did.

carly2803 · 30/07/2019 20:11

jesus i felt stressed just reading that!! absolutely agree with your dad and go no contact!

fwiw my mother was very respectful during my pregnancy, she ASKED if it was okay to do x y z, even with the baby now she asks. She does not assume or interfere. I invited her to scans (i wanted her there), but she never assumed she would go - she cried when I asked if she would like to come.

We are very close - thats the difference. If she was like your mum, id have told her to fuck off after the first paragraph

oatmilk4breakfast · 30/07/2019 20:16

Honestly? Your mum is behaving dreadfully. Can you stop seeing her? I think you’ll be happier. No one should say that sort of stuff to you. I’d be devastated if my mum said them to me.

Jasonh · 30/07/2019 20:20

Hi there,
Just a perspective from a man who’s wife doesn’t get on too well with my mum ( although she is much less hassle than your mum sounds, her heart is in the right place but just a tad OTT)
This sort of drama will just add to what is already a really stressful time. We dialled back on the contact for a while and I set some boundaries with Mum, which she has respected. The birth of our DD has brought us all closer together as a family, hopefully it might so the same for you too.
Set boundaries, if she crosses them say something like “we have agreed Xyz, and you haven’t stuck to it, I want to raise my child with boundaries and rules, I can’t let you undermine me and now I am a mum” maybe give her three strikes? limit visits and face time etc.
The more people who love your child the better but they have to conform to your parenting style and what you say is final.
Best wishes for your lo

Bringonspring · 30/07/2019 20:20

Wow stressful!

I would try and put boundaries in place pre baby. I kept all dates of scans a secret. Do you think reading back she could feel left out?

OzziePopPop · 30/07/2019 20:20

Definitely no contact, sorry. I was forced to go NC with my own mother about 18 months ago, I feel awfully guilty sometimes (I have two DC) but honestly, it’s the best decision I ever made. The drama, the undermining, the hassle it’s all gone, thank heavens!

Good luck with the baby, I hope everything works out for you 💐💐💐

SandAndSea · 30/07/2019 20:23

If you don't want to go NC completely, going NC for a while can re-set things. But, you have to stand strong and show absolutely that you won't be manipulated again.

SandAndSea · 30/07/2019 20:30

... When I say 'a while' I mean quite a while, maybe close to a year. You need enough time to create a proper distance and for her to realise that you mean what you say and to respect your boundaries.

KeepFuckingOff · 30/07/2019 20:36

Ghost her. She’s emotionally abusive and fucking batshit!

LadyBumclock · 30/07/2019 20:39

OP you've lived this for years and you know what she's like, so you may have a tendency to put up with it, but you don't have to. Mums/MILs like these get exponentially worse when you have a baby. You need firm, calm lines in the sand - if she can't behave / stick to what she agreed / respect your wishes, then you don't see her - full stop. You can't argue with crazy - for example thinking she can have your newborn overnight. It just has to be no and shut it down.

My mum's not quite like this, but she's very, very difficult, critical and needy and causes chaos and drama all the time. She's always gone on about how my DC will go to stay with her and she'll have a great relationship with them. But it's not the reality, because she's way too self-centred to actually take an interest in who they are or treat them with respect, and unfit to look after them alone because her need for drama comes above safety. We're very low contact now. She doesn't like it, of course she doesn't but it's tough shit.

You sound great and so does your dad, I'm glad you have him. Take this chance now to decide to protect your DC from your mum and grandma and keep things minimal and avoid the drama. Don't tell her stuff. Don't involve her a little bit in order to keep her happy - she's showed you that doesn't work and she'll take advantage. Get the message through to her loud and clear that you and your baby are not going to feed her disordered needs, so she can look elsewhere.

I know it's harsh, I've finally arrived at this harsh position after many years of shit. I know how difficult it is. Flowers and wishing you good luck for the birth and beyond. You will be a far, far better mum and that's what matters.

Totopoly · 30/07/2019 20:39

OP, agree with those who suggest very LC with her. Though I'd also get off social media. The idea that my mum or I would be on IG is bizarre. My teenagers are on it, which is a very good reason for us not to be.

Powerof4 · 30/07/2019 20:39

Google engulfing. Stop telling her anything - all you can do is put stronger boundaries in place. Frankly, she sounds a narcissist- like mine.

timeforachangeagain · 30/07/2019 20:43

My mum is a similar nightmare, I think my child was about five months old when I all but completely cut contact with her. Now he's a bit older we send her a photo here or there but don't really give her much information and just message her statements that don't invite conversation. I feel great for it, it's a shame that I don't have a mum to share this journey with but I'm definitely happier without the drama.

My husband said that as soon as I became a mother he could tell I was hit by the realisation of what a shit she is. When talking it almost made me feel nauseous to even think about treating my child the way she treated me. In time I realised that I deserve more and that she can't be expected to change so I had to make the changes instead and that was to put up barriers.

Good luck OP. This should be one of your most exciting times in life, do what you need to do to stay mentally and physically well and enjoy it .

eggsandwich · 30/07/2019 20:47

Well your first mistake was to divulge too much information to her when she has previous for blabbering.

You need to learn that if you remain in contact with her it’s unlikely that boundaries alone will be enough, you need to not tell her anything that you don’t want her tell other people.

Whatisinaname1 · 30/07/2019 20:47

She sounds awful, you dad has the right idea. She will stress you out and try to ruin things for you. Your nan doesnt sound much better, your dd doesn't need exposing to that.

Fuckedoffat48b · 30/07/2019 20:48

You really shouldn't have told her the sex of the baby. You allowed her to make a drama of it. Sorry to be harsh but in order to be able to deal with her you need to be able to see your role in this.

FWIW my difficult in-laws were obsessed with the idea that we had found out the sex of the baby and not told them but told my family. (We didn't know until he was born btw). They took every opportunity they could to accuse us of being dishonest about this and try to pry out of us what the sex of the baby was very rudely. People like this will try to make a drama out of the tiniest thing and you do need to not let them. If going NC is what it takes then that is what it takes.

SagAloojah · 30/07/2019 20:50

I don’t understand why you keep telling her things. I’m not being mean when I say you possibly like the attention.

  • you told her you were pregnant pre-12 weeks. If you don’t have a great relationship, why tell her?
  • you told her you knew sex of baby? Again, why if you don’t have a great relationship and no one else knew?