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The absolute state of the Daily Mail (re Meghan Markle)

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Hithere12 · 30/07/2019 12:18

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7298013/Meghan-Markles-organic-baby-shawl-used-swaddle-Archie-workers-earning-37-PENCE-hour.html

This is there top story. Meghan is using a cheap shawl & DM have found the factory it was made in.

She’s been criticised non stop for her spending, uses something cheap and the DM visit the sweatshop it was made in! I’m sorry but we are all guilty of this, very few people I’m sure track down where everything they buy is made and how much the staff are paid.

It’s just getting ridiculous how they’ll find literally anything to criticise.

If the DM want to expose sweat shops (something they care little about usually) they have the resources and man power to do so but they don’t give a shit they just want to go after Meghan.

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paffuto · 03/08/2019 06:17

If they are doing things "wrong" shouldn't their Advisors be sacked?

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 06:25

Of all the baffling things the most baffling is this insistence that she doesn’t want to/won’t/hasn’t carried out normal Royal duties. When she was very obviously visiting things, opening things, doing walkabouts up until going on maternity leave. You only have to look at the “frock watching” threads on here to know that she did at least her share of public engagements.

paffuto · 03/08/2019 06:40

The press are making things up such as MM won't do this and won't do that, etc.etc. Gullible, hard of thinking British public (including some MN'S) believe those lies and join in. Sad really, no minds of their own. Sheeple!!

paffuto · 03/08/2019 06:50

Total ignorance of the facts provided by Bertrand and others. Hands over their ears and "la de la" because what the "press" say, must be right, mustn't it? Sod the evidence! Duh! Sheeple....

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 07:02

I have to say, I do think the word “sheeple” is horribly rude and dismissive and I hate it.

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 07:28

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in an example of “dog whistle racism”, apparently Eamonn Holmes called the DofS “uppity”.......

SamanthaBrique · 03/08/2019 08:18

He did @BertrandRussell and has threatened to sue anyone who points out that it was a racist thing to say!

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2019 08:30

apparently Eamonn Holmes called the DofS “uppity”

I read that too. It's barely even "dog whistle", imo. It's a word I last heard in Golden Girls* I think; not commonly used in the UK as far as I know. Although apparently (again, according to the press I've read) he's threatened to sue somebody who called him racist.

Choking laughing
Really? I've no sense of humour, obviously.
Nice to start the day with a good chortle though.

  • To be fair, in GG it was used by Blanche who was annoyed with her daughter and threatened to "whip your uppity butt 'til hell won't have it no more". I assumed the script writers used it because of the way it rhymed. Certainly made it stick in my head. Of course, Blanche was from the south.

Now, GG did sometimes make me laugh out loud. Luckily not to the point of choking.

But I digress.

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2019 08:32

SamanthaBrique
Sorry - x-posted.
I'm a slow typist, I'm afraid.

paffuto · 03/08/2019 08:33

"sheeple" is horribly rude and dismissive In the same way as thousands of people are treating this new mother, you mean?

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 08:34

“It's barely even "dog whistle", imo.”

Do you mean that it’s so obviously racist that it doesn’t count as dog whistle? Or so obviously not racist that it doesn’t......?

SamanthaBrique · 03/08/2019 08:37

Hmm so it seems that for all that Harry is getting grief for showing up at Camp Google, the saintly Cambridges were there too!

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 08:44

I don't think they are saintly but I'm sure it's been confirmed that contrary to rumours they didn't attend.

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2019 08:45

Do you mean that it’s so obviously racist that it doesn’t count as dog whistle? Or so obviouslynotracist that it doesn’t......?

The former.
If I'd meant the latter I would have said I thought it wasn't a racist word. Sorry for being unclear.
In the current climate I would have thought the connotations of "uppity" would have been obvious to someone like Eamonn Holmes. The word has been brought up in a few articles that I've read and its use discussed.

No wish to be sued by Mr H though and I've no idea if he meant to use it in a racist way.
I did think, as someone who communicates for a living, he should have had less of a tin ear for certain words.

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2019 08:51

I did think, as someone who communicates for a living, he should have had less of a tin ear for certain words.

In case of further confusion, I meant he is somebody who communicates for a living.
Not me.

I think it's becoming obvious that I don't earn my living that way!

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 08:57

I actually think he knew exactly what he was saying. Depressing though that is. And I think his fans also know exactly what he was saying......

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 09:11

I actually think he knew exactly what he was saying

I think this is probably true. He has form for being pretty offensive under the guise of being a bit 'bumbling'.

paffuto · 03/08/2019 09:24

I genuinely don't see how the word "uppity" can be subtle racism. Isn't that word used for all races and creeds? Doesn't it just simply mean what it says -up their own arse?

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 09:28

“Isn't that word used for all races and creeds?“

Is it? How often have you heard it used? When did you last use it yourself? For people from Holmes’
generation there is only one word that follows “uppity”......

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IrmaFayLear · 03/08/2019 09:32

I must admit I had to google "dog whistle racism" as I didn't know what it is. I now understand it to be subtle clues as to race only discernable to those in the know (like only a dog can hear certain noises).

But doesn't this imply that therefore most people don't get it? I might be dog-whistle racisming away and I don't have a clue! I certainly had absolutely no idea that "uppity" was wrong. I thought it just meant that someone was getting above themselves. Uppity people I have encountered might include a certain "mum helper" at school who spoke to you as if she were a teacher and enjoyed swanning into the staff room, and a WRVS trolley volunteer who acted as if they were a senior consultant.

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 09:32

And actually, I can only remember hearing it applied to one other person in public life recently. And she was black too.

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 09:35

“Just because MM is bi-racial doesn’t mean that all criticism of her is racist.“

No, of course it doesn’t. And nobody has said it does. Lots of people have said that none of it is, though.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 03/08/2019 09:50

Of course words are used in different ways so it doesn't mean whoever uses them is racist, of course.