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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

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VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

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IsobelRae23 · 29/07/2019 09:03

I live in a town, but on a mountain. We chose to send dc to schools in a different county, because they were so much better. But we knew that it would mean taking them 7 miles to and from school each day, and driving them to friends homes which could be up to 28/30 miles away. We obviously don’t get transport for school as it was our choice. It’s meant 15 years so far of playing taxi, but that’s the price we paid for a better education. To a certain point our lives have been dictated by the dc’s social life- when we need to drop off and pick up on weekends etc, as due to logistics, buses would be a nightmare, and they would have to travel 3/4 different counties, and there are not trains. But again, we do it, because we made the decision where dc would go, they did not. But it’s been worth it! When I was at school I was lucky friends parents taxi’d me around (I had a dysfunctional family), allowed me to stay for whole weekends and weeks in the holidays, so I was always included. I will be forever grateful to them for that.

I feel so sorry for you all. I can’t believe the dc have to wait until 6pm to be picked up from school. That’s 1-2 hours a night, 5-10 hours a week, 20-40 hours a month, that they are wasting when they could be doing homework and revision. That is so much especially with GCSE’s approaching. Plus as teens, a social life is so important. Imagine going into school on a Monday and everyone is talking about what they did when they met up on the weekend, and you are always the outsider. Your dc I would benefit so much from a move.

Willow2017 · 29/07/2019 09:08

Evey time op drives it sets off the vertigo leading to severe headaches. That = chronic pain.
(Chronic doesnt mean constant as some people think it does)

Op has been perfectly obvious in the fact thather medical condition makes it difficult for her to drive. Not that she has never driven.
Why are you looking for something to argue about.

Many other conditions (which op doesnt have to explain here) are exacerbated by driving due to the movements you have to make but walking doesn't affect them. What's so difficult about that you can't understand Yabbers?

Yabbers · 29/07/2019 09:08

who are you to just dismiss someones pain as insignificant? Besides, it doesn't matter because she still isn't bloody allowed to drive due to vertigo.

Where did I say “insignificant”? There is a difference between “significant” and “chronic”

The “chronic pain” only became “vertigo” after someone pointed out that walking miles with “chronic pain” seems strange.

CitadelsofScience · 29/07/2019 09:08

Yabbers

Firstly, crippling headaches are actually part of the chronic pain I have so I have no reason to dismiss this. Mine have had me in tears begging for them to stop many a time but I need surgery to keep them at bay for any length of time.

Secondly, no the LA have a duty if it's your nearest school but if you've decided that you're not sending your child to that one then the costs fall to you. I know because my DS is at a school that isn't deemed nearest, we have to pay for transport costs.

Yabbers · 29/07/2019 09:09

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lyralalala · 29/07/2019 09:11

@yabbers if you think the OP is lying then the thing to do is report her, not pick her apart here

The whole “if you can walk two hours then you can drive” thing is bollocks anyway. My MiL can’t drive because of the pain from arthritis in her hands, wrists and elbows - turning the wheel is agony - she can, however, walk the hind legs off a horse since she got new hips!

Yabbers · 29/07/2019 09:13

crippling headaches
Are not what the OP describes.

Secondly, no the LA have a duty if it's your nearest school but if you've decided that you're not sending your child to that one then the costs fall to you. I know because my DS is at a school that isn't deemed nearest, we have to pay for transport costs.

OP states it is their nearest school.

And, actually it’s not as straightforward as that, but that’s irrelevant Here as the school is, in fact, the closest. Otherwise that would be yet another part of the tale that begs a question.

Yabbers · 29/07/2019 09:17

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Willow2017 · 29/07/2019 09:18

No you realy dont. You keep harping on about op being able to walk but not drive this shows you don't understand at all or are being deliberately argumentative.

Look up the definition of chronic!

I can walk plenty when my neck and shoulder problems flare up but driving is very painful and difficult.
Pain doesnt affect the whe body every time it can be localised and debilitating for some tasks but not others.

lyralalala · 29/07/2019 09:22

“Lying” is a strong word.

You’re suggesting that the OP could drive when she’s said she can’t. That’s suggesting she’s lying. Pure and simple.

Dustybun · 29/07/2019 09:23

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Willow2017 · 29/07/2019 09:32

The “chronic pain” only became “vertigo” after someone pointed out that walking miles with “chronic pain” seems strange
And if that's not suggesting op is lying then what is it?

When will posters accept the fact that an op doesnt have to divulge medical details just for thier gratification?

Ffs op moved when kids were babies it wasn't a problem then. And you know she probably didnt have vertigo then, just a thought you havent considered in your quest to discredit op. There isn't a timeframe when you have to develop it by or you are lying about it!

C8H10N4O2 · 29/07/2019 09:45

menieres disease

Yes - FiL had it and was unable to drive for over 10 yrs. Oddly when he went deaf in the worst affected ear the vertigo attacks came under sufficient control that he was able to reapply for a driving licence (although staying under regular review).

He couldn't stand up during attacks let alone drive and if caught outside amongst strangers their default reaction was that he was drunk due to the staggering around.

The “chronic pain” only became “vertigo” after someone pointed out that walking miles with “chronic pain” seems strange

FFS its possible to have more than one problem. In fact during the many years I've been attending pain clinics people with one condition are the exception not the norm.

If you really don't think being trapped in rural areas by partners controlling the money and the transport is a thing then google for some of the research on domestic abuse in rural areas and its impact on women and children.

Frankly even if the OP was writing fiction I can think of a dozen or more very similar stories from my rural dwelling SiL who volunteers with a regional women's charity.

LakieLady · 29/07/2019 09:56

OP, his behaviour is awful.

Here, the council would not help you if you left, unless you had good evidence of his abusive behaviour. Even then, they'd be far more likely to lend you the money for rent, deposit etc than give you a social housing tenancy. I'd recommend you make an appointment to see a housing caseworker, to see what the council's practice is where you live.

Butterymuffin · 29/07/2019 09:57

Pack up and go to your mum's ASAP. He will just try to block you leaving if you offer him the chance to come.

Sweeptheleg · 29/07/2019 09:57

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howdyalikemenow · 29/07/2019 10:38

What an unhelpful comment Confused

Jux · 29/07/2019 12:26

It's amazing what you can do when you feel you have to.

justasking111 · 29/07/2019 12:29

My DCs had a wonderful childhood in the country, but when teenagers were stuck, we moved so that they could have freedom, there is a bus at the top of the road now, they could get summer weekend jobs. I can walk to the Co-op, bliss, after two years it is still a novelty to me.

ScatteredMama82 · 29/07/2019 12:32

I definitely agree that you should try to move. We live in a village too, and like you there is a very infrequent bus service, however we have 2 cars and are happy to ferry the kids about it needed. Being stuck and unable to get out would be miserable!

justasking111 · 29/07/2019 12:35

I also had vertigo for six weeks was a ball ache for family I could not drive or shop they had to do everything for me. Get out now.

spacedone · 29/07/2019 13:00

I have vertigo. Developed after an attack of shingles. I'm lucky driving never triggered it and I was able to get medication that had an effect, and was able to visit specialists and physio privately - not everyone has the spare cash for this. I joined a vertigo support group. There are people who have to give up work and everyday activities because of it, who search for answers and visit doctors and never get relief. It can be incredibly debilitating.
It's also something other people can't see. You can be speaking to someone and all of a sudden the room is in circles and you have to try and say 'sorry I'm having an attack' and they look at you like 'wtf'. Because you're just sitting there and nothing is happening. And you pray they won't move around in front of you otherwise you may vomit.

But regardless of all of that, the op says she can't drive - which means she can't drive. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that's up for debate.

spacedone · 29/07/2019 13:06

You know what else I had from shingles? A frozen arm, pain that shot up and down my legs, pain when I turned my neck, weakness in both hands, post viral arthritis. Took over a year to recover from just those symptoms, and I still have nerve and stiffness issues. The vertigo has gone on for years.

You can have multiple health problems. Not that it's any of our business what the op's health issues are.

stucknoue · 29/07/2019 13:45

It sounds like your problems are far deeper than housing. You need to think whether you want to spend the next 30+ years with this man, no kids around to mitigate the situation? Getting rehoused isn't simple but if you go to your council and explain that he is being controlling and unreasonable, that you want to leave him but you don't want your kids to be homeless they will advise the procedure. He will probably be able to keep the existing house if he can afford to pay the bedroom tax surcharge thing as he will be under occupied.

Bumbags · 29/07/2019 13:57

Just go.

Definitely

Pack some bags tomorrow and get to your mum’s house.
The kids will have a great summer.