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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

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VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

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VenusTiger · 28/07/2019 18:09

Probably going to be in the minority here but, I agree with him OP 🤭 my family moved to “the sticks” when I was 13 and I was lucky to have a school bus which my mom drove me to and back every day. I was also very lucky to have a car etc at 17 - nearest house was a mile away, let alone shop... but me and my older brothers loved it!

Can you start an account with local taxi firm for school and college drop off and the odd trip for you and DD. DH can pay for it!

timeisnotaline · 28/07/2019 18:09

If you don’t like it we can always move. Until then this is the life you have chosen for all of us so as the one who decided stop fucking whining.

I really don’t think you should let him move with you and the dc.

CitadelsofScience · 28/07/2019 18:11

School transport has changed in the last few years in our county. If you send a child to a school that isn't your nearest and it's over three miles then you have to either pay around £700 a year if there's a school bus or you organise transport yourself.

You can thank local council cutbacks for this.

You do not automatically get free transport anymore in some areas.

thetimekeeper · 28/07/2019 18:12

Another option would be we go while he's at work.

I honestly think that would be best for everyone. I'm sure there's part of you that wants to believe the man you loved before will resurface and you'll be able to reason with him, but it just won't happen.

None of this is about reason for him, it's about control. The threats he made previously about custody are lifted from the abusive man's handbook.

Coercive control is a crime. So even if he's never laid a finger on any of you the abuse he's subjected you to is still severe enough and damaging enough to attract a prison sentence.

Make a plan, get things in place, then leave. You don't need him kicking off or doing something unpredictable when he realises his threats won't be enough to stop you this time.

If you can correctly explain to organisations that he's been abusing you all, and name it as coercive control, it will be easier for you to access the help you need.

This is absolutely bad enough for you to speak to Women's Aid for advice - 0808 2000 247.

Once you've managed to get you and the children out you may want to look at doing the Freedom Programme for yourself, www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Weezol · 28/07/2019 18:15

He's using coercive control on all three of you. You are leaving an abusive relationship - please make that known to the Housing Association. My HA has support workers that will help you find alternate accommodation if a tenant and children are fleeing domestic abuse, which you absolutely are.

rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-information/violence-against-women-and-international-law/coercive-control-and-the-law/

Medianoche · 28/07/2019 18:16

I was the teenager in this scenario, except my parents were already separated. It was really horrible. Missing a bus meant the choice between waiting for hours or walking alone a couple of miles up unlit lanes with no pavements. An awful lot of strangers would helpfully stop to offer a lift - possibly/probably genuine, but many were apparently clueless as to why I might not feel comfortable accepting. I left the isolated village the day of my last GCSE exam to go and went to live 100 miles away with my other parent. Forever grateful that I had that escape route open to me.

VenusTiger · 28/07/2019 18:16

Wow OP I missed the parts where you’re saying he won’t take your DD out but goes out himself!
He’s a selfish man!
You and DCs need to talk to him as a unit about how it’s affecting your lives when he’s at work, as he clearly doesn’t want to appreciate what it’s like for you all.
Sorry to hear about your vertigo!

june2007 · 28/07/2019 18:17

So his bike was nicked. But was it locked? If not then he needs to learn to take better care of his stuff.

ItsMsAtomicBobToYou · 28/07/2019 18:21

@june2007 This entire thread and THAT'S what you took away from it?!

Oliversmumsarmy · 28/07/2019 18:22

But June it is such a safe village.

Why the need to lock the bike

Op if your dh is planning his retirement in their place can you imagine spending the rest of your life with him living within those 4 walls.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/07/2019 18:28

I agree with speaking to the DC first, especially if this move will mean they will be changing schools. It may very will be (but I doubt it) that they'd rather stay put than be uprooted from their school & friends. Does your mum live locally to the DC schools? Will there be transport?

Actually, your first call should be to her to be sure she agrees with you & DC moving in (I'm sure she will, but it's best to know for sure). If so and it'll mean changing schools, find out about that too before you talk to DC and then confront him.

You're going to want to have ALL your ducks in a row before you confront him. Because if you don't and there's a roadblock stops you you've now issued an ultimatum that you're going to have to back down from. Never, ever issue an ultimatum before you have everything ready to go!

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 18:39

@AcrossthePond55

My DM lives in the town where DC's school is, so that's not an issue. She's always been very vocal about how me and the DC's can come and stay whenever we like for a break from the village. When I wanted to move last time she was going to have us. The DC's will be able to walk to school from hers. I'd try and be in our own place ASAP though.

A few posters mentioned DH potentially "agreeing" to the houseswap and then sabotaging it. I could very much see him doing this. Ideally houseswap would be what I would like to do because it saves me having to grovel to the council to rehouse us, but he'd still have the power. It has also just dawned on me that I can't risk putting the DC's through that, getting them excited about the houseswap only for nothing to happen because we get no offers/DH ruins it. It would destroy DD especially, I think.

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howdyalikemenow · 28/07/2019 18:41

I'm angry on your behalf op. Do what you need to do. Best of luck

HappyLoneParentDay · 28/07/2019 18:44

You need to go asap. So the kids have time to not only settle before the holidays are over, but to give them chance to enjoy the rest of their summer & maintain their friendships. So important I think.
I'd be going right now! But that's just me. I've always been a 'why prolong the inevitable?' kind of person.

HatRack · 28/07/2019 18:45

This man is abusive. Go to Women's Aid (or equivalent) and tell them what you have told us. They can get you rehomed quickly (social housing). Show your kids how you will take back control and protect them.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 18:46

@Oliversmumsarmy Oh god I know. Obviously my main issue now is the immediate future and my DC's lives, but I can't imagine growing old and rotting here.

It would send me into an early death I think. When I'm old I want to be able to be near services and also be able to still nip to the shop/chemist etc. I don't understand him at all. It's already so lonely but retiring there would be horrific.

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HatRack · 28/07/2019 18:46

P.S. I speak from identical experience.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/07/2019 18:56

Sounds as if your mum is a gem @VizzyWoo . Thank God for mums, eh?

I'd just get ducks in a row and go. So much easier with (I assume) the DC out of school. If your DH wants to do a house swap you can do it with you living at your mum's just as well as if you're living in his 'lovely retirement house'.

But I think that even if you do get him to move, you'll be paying for it every day for the rest of your life. I can't see someone as selfish as him being gracious about it. Every time he doesn't like something or wants something, or you two disagree, he'll drag it up and beat you over the head with it. Everything will be "Well, I gave up my lovely retirement house for you so.....".

I'd rather chew glass than live with that.

PTW1234 · 28/07/2019 18:57

Sorry to sound a bit dumb but how is it easier to walk 1 hour each way than drive?

Anniegetyourgun · 28/07/2019 18:58

All this Lord of the Manor act and it isn't even his house! I could maybe understand his attitude if it had been bequeathed to him by his favourite granny or something Confused

Honestly, it's like he doesn't see you or the DC as real people, just backdrops in his life, which are currently refusing to stay pinned neatly to the wall. At least your mum will appreciate you (and I bet she sees more of what's been going on than you think).

Anniegetyourgun · 28/07/2019 18:59

Sorry to sound a bit dumb but how is it easier to walk 1 hour each way than drive?

Similarly to how it is easier to ask a question on page 10 than to RTFT, I imagine :P

thetimekeeper · 28/07/2019 19:02

I think you're right both about him sabotaging a house swap and the impact it would have on your daughter.

What do you think the chances are of you being able to make a move to your mum's at the beginning of the summer so the two of them (and you) have the chance to settle a little before school starts again in September? (And benefit from being able to nurture friendships over the summer).

Making that first move might be the biggest "jolt" rather than any subsequent move somewhere more permanent.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 19:03

@PTW1234 Because I have vertigo. Driving is horrendous for me and the DVLA don't want me to

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Cornettoninja · 28/07/2019 19:10

@VizzyWoo I truly wish you good luck and strength. You have to go. You all sound so miserable, even your dh sounds like he’s had enough of the moaning - not that he deserves a shred of sympathy.

Like others I believe that if you move somewhere your children have no way to gain any independence then you resign yourself to playing taxi for a number of years. That’s the price. I remember reading a thread on here how people stopped going home to visit their parents as often because they lived in the middle of nowhere and it was just too boring/difficult.

Just to add to your list of reasons to stay motivated; what if your dh got ill or had his licence revoked for some reason? What would you all do then? Isolation doesn’t sound great for retirement unless you’re minted and can afford taxis or a chauffeur.

CitadelsofScience · 28/07/2019 19:25

I just don't understand what's so difficult to get about not being able to drive with vertigo. Are these readers hard of thinking?

I don't drive because I have these funny little brain blips, it's like dizziness crossed with just black. I'd never drive because I'd be so terrified when one was going to happen. They are seconds long but I'd never risk lives.

So can the people with impaired function try really hard to understand or just rtfft Grin