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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

333 replies

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

OP posts:
blackteasplease · 28/07/2019 19:26

God you sound like my parents (and us as teens). Except my Mum can drive, but when they first moved to their village she didnt have a car.

She realised she hated it there within weeks of moving in. They are STILL THERE almost 40 years later. He will not move and made excuse after excuse.

She seems to have made her peace with it now, nd my kids love visiting, but I remember feeling alot like your dc

CmdrCressidaDuck · 28/07/2019 19:27

YADNBU. DH spent a miserable, depressed adolescence isolated in the Home Counties with no public transport and although he has a good relationship with his parents now, he has serious mental scars from that period and is still resentful. (One of many reasons we are both Londoners 4 Lyfe.)

Your husband is an arse. Please get away as fast as ever you can. And if there is any delay, or even if there isn't but you can afford it, please strongly consider buying your kids bikes (and quality locks). A bike can be a hugely liberating thing for a teenager (and the health benefits are huge too).

lavenderbluedilly · 28/07/2019 19:36

If he’s determined to retire in this house, would he consider renting out your home say for the next 10 years, and use the profit to rent somewhere more urban until the kids have left home?

We recently had difficulty selling our very rural house, and considered doing this, as our commute/school runs were unsustainable. Thankfully we were able to sell by lowering the asking price.

Ginormoustrawberry · 28/07/2019 19:39

It’s always this type of thread that brings out the knobheads isn’t it?

Other than ridiculously high volume of posters who need to RTFT my personal favourites are ‘teach the DD to drive’ and ‘I agree with your DH because my rural upbringing was great’ 🙄

Good luck to you and your DC’s OP, I agree with the sensible posters who are advising you get the hell out of dodge. For the sake of all your sanities.

In the meantime - cancel the cheque 😉

Kerrylou92 · 28/07/2019 19:43

Maybe he should book a week off and you can hide his car keys so he can't go anywhere for the week and see how he likes it.

He doesn't want to leave because nothing is an issues for him I agree he is being selfish. He goes out to work, he goes out and socialises. I would have a calm conversation with him, you and the kids. Tell him again how you feel and if he doesn't like it just say 'the kids and I have made a decision, we are moving now you can come with us or not but we don't want to stay here and we are not going to' if he chooses his 'safe house' well you know where you stand. And I would make arrangements to stay with family for a while

howdyalikemenow · 28/07/2019 19:51

@Ginormoustrawberry Grin

Purplerain16 · 28/07/2019 19:55

YANBU

Coming from a small village myself, I know how isolating it is. I would've killed to be out with my friends. Many nights I spent in tears because I couldn't go out with them.
I felt awful having my mum drive us everywhere, it tired her out so much.

Now I'm older, I know I'd love to live in a small village. But if I had children, never. It's far too lonely and restrictive

EvaHarknessRose · 28/07/2019 19:57

I don't like to think of you living with this man once your children have flown the nest, OP. Think carefully before agreeing to him coming too.

Teachermaths · 28/07/2019 20:06

Apologies OP I suggested you learn to drive before you said it was vertigo. I understand now that's not possible for you.

Get yourself to your mums. Take enough stuff for you and the kids and go. Your dh is a controlling fuck wit and I'm sure you'll all be happier away from him.

Oliversmumsarmy · 28/07/2019 20:08

Ultimately you have to steer your own boat.

You can’t rely on your dh being completely behind you.

We live in a tiny back water on the outskirts of London. Unlit roads, about 15-20 houses down a warren of unlit unpavemented single track roads with passing spaces.

Dd drives now but when she was younger I had to run her to the tube station each morning and collect her each evening after school.

If she wanted to go anywhere or out with her friends I would run her everywhere, same with Ds.

If you live in places like these then you have to be the taxi driver 24/7

The problem is your dh is planning for retirement when he has years to go. He is so focussed on his retirement he doesn’t seem to see he has teenage children or the fact his vision of retirement is your fate worse than death

lyralalala · 28/07/2019 20:14

Apologies OP I suggested you learn to drive before you said it was vertigo. I understand now that's not possible for you.

Still a pretty rude suggestion when the OP says in her first post that she can't drive because of chronic pain.

Other than ridiculously high volume of posters who need to RTFT my personal favourites are ‘teach the DD to drive’ and ‘I agree with your DH because my rural upbringing was great’ 🙄

The "teach the 15yo to drive and she can ferry the 12yo around" one was particularly spectacular. They should all just stay put and let one of the kids take over the parent role of ferrying around siblings just to let the Dad stay in the house only he is happy in - wtf?!

Handsoffmysweets · 28/07/2019 20:23

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billy1966 · 28/07/2019 20:24

OP,
He is horrible, abusive and controlling.

Tell him absolutely nothing.

Talk to your Mum and arrange to go there.

Arrange a lift from your brother or taxi while he is at work.

After he has left for work pack your bags.

Be gone by the time he gets home.

Take time in your Mum's to find out do you and do your children want him to join you.

I bet they won't.

Apply for housing based on having to flee your house.

Just because he hasn't beaten you does not mean you have not been in an abusive, controlling relationship.

Remember to take all your important paper work like birth certificates and passports.

Your poor children being rated in that house.

Go now.

Because I can assure you they will be gone the first chance they get.

Greensleeves · 28/07/2019 20:26

What HappyLoneParentDay said

It amazes me how people can make such bizarre judgements about others' lives without even bothering to read what little information has been supplied Hmm

I agree with everyone else. Leave this sack of dead weight behind, he is suffocating you all.

Handsoffmysweets · 28/07/2019 20:31

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candycane222 · 28/07/2019 20:35

I found your situation really distressing to read about OP. Rooting for you to escape, he has no right to bully all of you like this. What an arse.

Willow2017 · 28/07/2019 20:45

I did read the post. I worked with many disabled people who drove modified cars. I'm pretty sure she could drive an automatic!!!

  1. bro you know about every kind of medical condition going to make such a daft statement? Not everyone who.hasxa 'disability' or medical.condition can drive just because it's an automatic!
  2. if you bothered to.read ops posts you would see she has severe vertigo plus other problems. No freaking auto' is going to fix that. DVLA don't believe it either!

Wtf is so miraculous about an automatic?
I have driven.one for years but it hasn't cured my medical condition! It must be faulty.😁😁

*Please OP Learn To
Could you learn to drive?
Ffs! She CAN drive she just isn't allowed to by law due to her med condition. At least do.op the courtesy of reading her posts folks.

Willow2017 · 28/07/2019 20:47

So not 'bro' !!!

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 21:04

I don't know how it works but I assumed if me and DC left then the council would boot DH out and move a family in there.

Am I wrong there? Seems odd they'd let a single bloke take up a 3 bedroom house.

OP posts:
RandomMess · 28/07/2019 21:06

I dunno would he have to pay "bedroom tax" if he had the DC for overnights he may still be entitled to it...

Willow2017 · 28/07/2019 21:10

If its anything like other councils they won't have 1 bedroom places o swap him to anyways!

A friend of mine was told he had to move to a 1 bedroom despite having his kids every weekend. He is still waiting a year later as there is nowhere for him to go!

titchy · 28/07/2019 21:22

Why would they evict him if he's paying the rent? If he's claiming HB then that would be limited, but otherwise no - people can rent as big a house as they want as long as they pay their rent. Even social tenants.

TeacupDrama · 28/07/2019 21:29

if he pays full rent ie no benefits the bedroom tax does not apply neither can he be forced to move out, however he could not move to another 3 bed elsewhere
your joint tennacy would become his sole tenancy I think; as he is already a tenant therefore can't be kicked out

LannieDuck · 28/07/2019 21:36

When he takes the car to the pub, is he drinking and then driving home?

If the remote location started to hit his social life a bit (instead of just the family's), might he start to see things differently?

Walkingwounded · 28/07/2019 21:45

I am just slightly further down the road than you, OP.

Living spectacularly rurally, with controlling DH. He will not move and it’s me who does all the ferrying around for the kids (13 and 11). Work full time and drive constantly.

DH will not budge, or hear that it is a problem. Will not set a time limit on leaving.

So I am going. We are separating: have had offer accepted on house; now hoping and praying for mortgage offer to come through.

Have seen the effects on the kids of social isolation and reading the experiences of those who have lived it on here, just reinforces my determination. As I hope it does for you. It seems to me that living in a really isolated way separates some people (like our DHs) from the real world, and they almost create a parallel universe where they are in charge: what they say goes.

I hope you can get out. The burden of the isolation will lift so quickly, and your children will be like new people.