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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

...or is my neighbour expecting too much?

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ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:03

Ok, so my next door neighbour and I have just 'had words' for the first time. We've lived next door to each other for 20 years with no problems, we chat over the fence etc, usual stuff. She's 71 and lives alone, I live with my 13 year old since my divorce in 2011. Both houses are small modern semis.

So last year, during school hols, she mentioned that my son 'running' up the stairs after she had gone to bed was waking her, or stopping her sleeping. I wasn't sure what she meant by 'running' because as far as i'm aware he just does what every normal kid does...he goes up quickly, but he doesnt 'run', and I can't say I've ever thought it was unusually noisy. But anyway, I apologised, and said I would remind him to walk as much as I could. So I did, every night for weeks because I didn't want her to be disturbed, obviously. Then I asked her had things improved and she said 'yes, I haven't heard a thing'. Great. All sorted.

Anyway, last night my son, his friend and I arrived home from holiday after a four hour car journey about 10.20pm. We unloaded the car, and they did run up and down the stairs laughing and calling to each other, carrying stuff up, which I didn't know they were doing as I was still out by the car. It was ten minutes max, and when I heard them I told them to stop because neighbour might be disturbed, and they did stop straight away and all was quiet for the rest of the night.

But this morning, I was putting washing out and she had a right go at me about them running up the stairs, saying it was 'so loud I had to bang the wall, they woke me up and I couldn't get back to sleep'... she was really quite blunt and aggressive. I was really surprised and I just thought 'Not this again, and this time it's really daft- it was literally ten minutes'. So I said I'm sorry, but they'd been cooped up in a car for hours, it was ten minutes maximum and to be honest, I think you are being unreasonable expecting 13 year old boys to not run up stairs, it's what children do'...And then she said "oh well. he's been doing it for months, ever since I first told you about it, I've been putting up with it "...WTF? I asked why, in that case had she lied and said she couldn't hear anything anymore when I asked her last year, sand she said 'Because I knew you'd be the sort of person who wouldn't like me saying it".
Now, I've never had a cross word with her before, yet somehow she assumes I'm going to be troublesome over this one thing?

Anyway, I did say that I thought that was completely unfair, and and that I think she's being ridiculous complaining about a kid going up the stairs in his own house, in a completely normal way.

Apparently she can 'tell what sort of a person I am now, too'.

So...basically, am I BU or is she? Should I be reminding my son to walk quietly up the stairs every night? He's in bed himself by 11pm even in school holidays, it's not like he's galloping up and down stairs at 2am. I honestly have never heard of anyone moaning about their neighbour's child going up the stairs. But, please feel free to correct me, as I m genuinely wondering now if I AM being a bad neighbour.

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gamerchick · 25/07/2019 18:08

He goes to bed at 11pm on a school night?

*Sorry couldn't resist Grin

Tbh it is annoying when people are noisy on the stairs and it sounds like she finds any amount of noise is intolerable after you go to bed. I would just keep reminding him to be considerate if it's late at night.

Gertie75 · 25/07/2019 18:09

Yanbu, if you live in a house attached to another you have to expect some general living noise, we used to hear next doors stairs, telephone, washing machine etc and I presume they heard the same from us.

As long as people are respectful with noise they can control such as TV blaring late at night then there's no issue.

gamerchick · 25/07/2019 18:09

Anyway, last night my son, his friend and I arrived home from holiday after a four hour car journey about 10.20pm. We unloaded the car, and they did run up and down the stairs laughing and calling to each other, carrying stuff up

This ^ is inconsiderate at that time of night though.

TulipsTulipsTulips · 25/07/2019 18:13

She is being unreasonable and your responses sound spot on to me. However I would also give her some slack as many elderly people have sleep problems and also forget what it was like to have a young family. If I was in your shoes I would just be warm and friendly and try to leave it in the past. Easier said than done however!

KnifeAngel · 25/07/2019 18:13

You are being very inconsiderate. I don't allow mine to make noise after 9. The TV is turned down and we walk quietly up the stairs.

We have fairly new neighbours who are driving me insane with their noise.

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:14

No, he's in bed earlier than 11 in school time, I just worded that badly. I meant that the latest hes ever up is 11pm.

I didn't know they were running up the stairs, If I had I would have stopped them straightaway. I'm disabled, I was still out by the car taking things out of it and they were carrying things in for me. I didn't ask them to take stuff upstairs.

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olympicsrock · 25/07/2019 18:14

Sounds like normal family noise. She needs to chill out

Flippertybob · 25/07/2019 18:14

The walls of modern houses tend to be thin. It's not all that surprising that your neighbour can hear your DS.

At that time of night I would have expected him to be as quiet as possible when he got home. Ten minutes of running up and down the stairs and calling out to each other is not particularly neighbourly and I'm not surprised there was a complaint. I wouldn't have been at all impressed if my teens had behaved that way.

"Should I be reminding my son to walk quietly up the stairs every night?"

At his age I would expect him to be able to do that without needing a reminder.

"I asked why, in that case had she lied and said she couldn't hear anything anymore when I asked her last year, sand she said 'Because I knew you'd be the sort of person who wouldn't like me saying it".

She's right though, isn't she? You clearly don't see that your son's noise at night is a problem.

RosaWaiting · 25/07/2019 18:17

You’re probably used to the noise

Treading lightly is a good skill and fairer all round.

Harpingon · 25/07/2019 18:18

Have you got carpet on your stairs? Does he wear his shoes inside?

ChikiTIKI · 25/07/2019 18:19

She needs to move to a detached house if she expects that level of quiet.

She's also rude but maybe it's the heat making her stressed.

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:21

In relation to me being the 'sort of person who wouldn't like it'- it was more the fact that she assumed I would have a problem with it, when we have never disagreed on anything before, that I was surprised about. so yes, I thought that was an unfair and judgemental thing to say.

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beanaseireann · 25/07/2019 18:21

Buy her a pair of earplugs Smile

FlatheadScrewdriver · 25/07/2019 18:21

I think you're genuinely doing your best to limit the noise, and you're aware last night was unfortunate, but you did put a stop to it as soon as you could.

I think you just have to live in your house normally, being reasonably considerate particularly during the night, and let your neighbour settle down. They may well be a light sleeper / go to bed quite early / feel unwell due to the heat so be coping a bit less than usual...you can't tell, but not can you entirely change your life around it.
(But I would make sure it's shoes off before racing up the stairs, as teens can be heavy-footed.)

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:22

Yes, we have thick carpet, her bedroom is on the opposite side of the house to our stairs, and no he just wears socks.

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Idontwanttotalk · 25/07/2019 18:22

Modern housing has nothing to soundproof it so I suppose, now that she has complained again, you will have to ask your child to try and keep the noise down.

Have the stairs got a thick enough underlay and is the carpet suitably thick? I just wondered whether you can do anything to improve the sound insulation. Could you also make sure all the floorboards are screwed down so they don't creak?

I live in a semi (but an old one) and have never heard the ndn go up the stairs. I don't hear a peep from them.

How did you leave things with the ndn - are you still on speaking terms?

AdaColeman · 25/07/2019 18:22

TBH it seems as though it's just ordinary 'life' noise, which would be expected when living in a semi. It wasn't late at night past midnight, it didn't carry on for hours, and it was just a one off event not day after day.

ivykaty44 · 25/07/2019 18:23

Thing was you caught her out in her own deceitfulness & she could either say

I just lied about the noise continuing

Or

I just lied back then about the noise

But instead she blamed you for her lies

So your neighbour is a big fibber

Farmerswifey12 · 25/07/2019 18:24

YANBU, unless there is more to the story. If she is particularly sensitive to noise I don't understand why she hasn't purchased some ear plugs

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user1471449295 · 25/07/2019 18:26

It’s normal family noise. If you live in an attached house (especially new builds), you are going to hear things, stairs especially.
She’s BU.

Cosentyx · 25/07/2019 18:28

It's normal living noise. Why are you apologising? He's not doing it late at night, it's not constant, fuck her off. I'd have ignored her entirely. Ridiculous to tiptoe round your own house for her benefit. Stop saying sorry or even engaging with her.

H2OH20Everywhere · 25/07/2019 18:30

Ask if you can go round and listen one evening. If her bedrooms at the other side of the house, you have carpets down and he's in socks it seems unlikely that he could be causing too much noise, surely?

Passthecherrycoke · 25/07/2019 18:30

I don’t understand why anyone builds semis where the staircase is on the party wall. 1930a semis usually always build
With the staircases at opposite ends for exactly this issue and it’s just common sense

Anyway yanbu and furthermore I wouldn’t expect my son to tip toe about in his own home during the day/ evening

0nTheEdge · 25/07/2019 18:31

I once lived next door to a family and their child who must have only been around 7 made an unbelievable amount of noise going up and down the stairs. Honestly it was was ridiculous. I put it down to the fact the walls were thin and that kids are a bit unaware. We got on great with them, didn't hold it against them and if it had gotten worse or late at night I may have asked them nicely to be a bit more lightfooted if possible. It's just what happens when you share a wall. Your neighbour sounds a bit cantankerous to be honest, she could have asked nicely more than just once instead of saying it was better and then being an arse.

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