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...or is my neighbour expecting too much?

92 replies

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:03

Ok, so my next door neighbour and I have just 'had words' for the first time. We've lived next door to each other for 20 years with no problems, we chat over the fence etc, usual stuff. She's 71 and lives alone, I live with my 13 year old since my divorce in 2011. Both houses are small modern semis.

So last year, during school hols, she mentioned that my son 'running' up the stairs after she had gone to bed was waking her, or stopping her sleeping. I wasn't sure what she meant by 'running' because as far as i'm aware he just does what every normal kid does...he goes up quickly, but he doesnt 'run', and I can't say I've ever thought it was unusually noisy. But anyway, I apologised, and said I would remind him to walk as much as I could. So I did, every night for weeks because I didn't want her to be disturbed, obviously. Then I asked her had things improved and she said 'yes, I haven't heard a thing'. Great. All sorted.

Anyway, last night my son, his friend and I arrived home from holiday after a four hour car journey about 10.20pm. We unloaded the car, and they did run up and down the stairs laughing and calling to each other, carrying stuff up, which I didn't know they were doing as I was still out by the car. It was ten minutes max, and when I heard them I told them to stop because neighbour might be disturbed, and they did stop straight away and all was quiet for the rest of the night.

But this morning, I was putting washing out and she had a right go at me about them running up the stairs, saying it was 'so loud I had to bang the wall, they woke me up and I couldn't get back to sleep'... she was really quite blunt and aggressive. I was really surprised and I just thought 'Not this again, and this time it's really daft- it was literally ten minutes'. So I said I'm sorry, but they'd been cooped up in a car for hours, it was ten minutes maximum and to be honest, I think you are being unreasonable expecting 13 year old boys to not run up stairs, it's what children do'...And then she said "oh well. he's been doing it for months, ever since I first told you about it, I've been putting up with it "...WTF? I asked why, in that case had she lied and said she couldn't hear anything anymore when I asked her last year, sand she said 'Because I knew you'd be the sort of person who wouldn't like me saying it".
Now, I've never had a cross word with her before, yet somehow she assumes I'm going to be troublesome over this one thing?

Anyway, I did say that I thought that was completely unfair, and and that I think she's being ridiculous complaining about a kid going up the stairs in his own house, in a completely normal way.

Apparently she can 'tell what sort of a person I am now, too'.

So...basically, am I BU or is she? Should I be reminding my son to walk quietly up the stairs every night? He's in bed himself by 11pm even in school holidays, it's not like he's galloping up and down stairs at 2am. I honestly have never heard of anyone moaning about their neighbour's child going up the stairs. But, please feel free to correct me, as I m genuinely wondering now if I AM being a bad neighbour.

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ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:33

Friar Tuck... thank you for assuming I was using my disability to get sympathy. Disabled people, at least none that I know of, use their disabilty y to get sympathy, I do not expect or want sympathy because I do not consider myself as any different to anyone else, and I would not lower myself to do that. If that's what you genuinely think I was doing when you do not even know me and have never met me, then I can only imagine you have a very low opinion of disabled people in general. I would also never assume a disabled person was doing that.

I was putting it in merely to explain more fully why I was out still out by the car, as it takes me a while to get in and out, and why I was not in the house as soon as the boys were. And that's all there was to it. I find your comment offensive.

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CCquavers · 25/07/2019 18:34

If your neighbour has suddenly blown up at you about noise then I would take it seriously. Obviously she is upset and obviously she feels/sees something about you that she didn't want to complain to you before.

I would not be harping on about comments made in the heat of the moment. You seem well able to stick for yourself. Knock on her door and apologise and ask her about the noise. We can all confirm that we are numbed to sound of our own children being noisy.

NailsNeedDoing · 25/07/2019 18:36

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Harpingon · 25/07/2019 18:36

I can't see that there is much more you can do really, apart from buy her a nice pair of earplugs....... It's normal family noise.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 25/07/2019 18:38

She’s couldn’t get back to sleep from 10:20pm? For the whole night? Sure.

I’d have left the conversation with a shrug and a “soz babes” and turned away from her.

FriarTuck · 25/07/2019 18:40

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ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:41

Idontwanttotalk-sorry, I don't know how to tag people properly to show I've replied to their post, but I'm not sure if we are on speaking terms, she just stalked back into her kitchen and I was still outside. If she wants to talk, I'll talk, I don't particularly want to be on bad terms, and I've never fallen out with any of my neighbours before, hence not really being sure if I'm BU. All I know is that my son doesn't 'run' up the stairs, he just walks sort of walks quickly, which I thought is normal.

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LadyRannaldini · 25/07/2019 18:46

Buy her a pair of earplugs
An easier solution than controlling your son's. and your own, inconsiderate behaviour, isn't it.
Maybe if you want to bang around the house like a herd of elephants at 10 30pm it's you who need a detached house.

Lindy2 · 25/07/2019 18:49

Is it really hot where you are? If it is I imagine she's a bit hot and bothered and snappy.
10.20pm is a bit late for running up and down stairs several times and laughing, especially as you already know their is a sound problem. It was very hard to get to sleep here last night because of the heat so I also expect that didn't help the situation.
Living in a semi next to the home of a teenager is likely to come with some noise expectations though. If you want to maintain a good neighbourly relationship I'd just apologise and say you will remind him again to tread more softly.

sonjadog · 25/07/2019 18:50

She is being unreasonable and exaggerating for effect, by sound of it. I’d reply that I knew what kind of person she was too!

TooManyPaws · 25/07/2019 18:50

Don't be ridiculous, Friar Tuck. OP was hardly doing a poor little me; rather she was explaining why the boys were taking stuff in and she was outside, hence not knowing that they were running up and down stairs. Should we all declare whether we are disabled or not at the beginning of every post to satisfy you? Sometimes you don't think that it has any relevance until later in the conversation and then numpties accuse you of drip feeding and just wanting sympathy. You seem determined to force your own narrative; have you thought of writing fiction?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/07/2019 18:51

YANBU- u expect some noise in adjoining houses- you weren’t playing loud music ffs- next time just say “have you considered moving to a detached house”....

SuzieQQQ · 25/07/2019 18:52

She sounds like a cantankerous old bag. Buy her some earplugs.

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:52

No, Friar Tuck, you're wrong and I'm calling you out on it. Yes, you're right I could have mentioned it in my op, but I didn't think to, because I don't spend my life feeling like my disability has to come into every conversation. I only included it when I realised in some of the answers people didn't realise I wasn't in the house. But you will believe what you will, so hey ho.
I'm sorry that you feel you have to judge everyone so harshly, when you don't know them at all. I see you have managed to have me down as a poor parent too, based on this one post. How I wish I had your amazing insight, I'm sure you are never wrong about anyone and are an excellent judge of everyone's character. Good day.

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Cocolapew · 25/07/2019 18:53

If you have carpet and her bedroom is on the other side of the house how could she hear him? Confused

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:55

TooManyPaws thank you for that, that is exactly what I was doing.

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Boysey45 · 25/07/2019 18:57

Neighbour is being unreasonable, there has to be some give and take with NDNs. I've found that some people are very intolerant of others especially as they get very old. I was on a bus a few weeks ago and a young mum with a baby got on and the baby wouldn't stop crying. Two elderly people then started having a right go at her.
I'd remind my son to be quiet on stairs and also say to her that she needs to be more tolerant or get soundproofing boards fitted.

ThingInTheAttic · 25/07/2019 18:58

CQavers... I think you are right, I should knock her door and extend the olive branch. Even if I don't agree with her, it's not good to let things fester. Not worth it after 20 years of getting along fine.

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Escapetab · 25/07/2019 19:01

I just actually re-registered because I was so annoyed by Friar Tuck's obnoxious (and honestly quite ableist, accusing a disable person of "using" their disability on sod all evidence) bullshit that I wanted to tell them off, but TooMany and OP beat me to it :-D OP, I think your neighbour is indeed expecting too much, getting back from a holiday late is hardly an everyday occurrence and you sound like a reasonable neighbour to me. Don't let her get to you.

Reallybadidea · 25/07/2019 19:02

*I didn't know they were running up the stairs, If I had I would have stopped them straightaway. I'm disabled, I was still out by the car taking things out of it and they were carrying things in for me.,

How @FriarTuck can see that as a poor attempt to get sympathy is a mystery to me.

YANBU OP. She should try living here, with a neighbour allowing her dog to bark at 1am for 20 minutes Angry

Derbee · 25/07/2019 19:03

I wouldn’t offer an olive branch. It’ll just look as though she’s in the right.

You’ve made an effort to keep noise down, but you have to be able to live in your house. I would never turn my tv down etc because I had neighbours. Reasonable noise is to be expected in a semi detached or terraced house. Plus 10:20pm is hardly late. She’s unreasonable. She should move to a detached house if she needs so much peace and quiet. Still I suspect she’d find something to moan about.

Sandybval · 25/07/2019 19:03

You've been more than reasonable, yes noise from neighbours is annoying, but you've done what you can to reduce it. Last night was unfortunate, but it happens.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 25/07/2019 19:07

And dropping the bit in about you being disabled was just a poor attempt to get sympathy which shows that you know you're in the wrong.

You nasty fuck

CSIblonde · 25/07/2019 19:07

I think any screeching & noise after 10pm really isn't on tbh. I live in an old house converted into flats & it's quite noisy as there no soundproofing. But everyone's considerate & come 9pm people people are quiet & I make sure my TV isn't too loud by having the subtitles on too.

TheNoodlesIncident · 25/07/2019 19:08

I know some people go up and down stairs like a Clydesdale, their heels thudding on the treads, but with her bedroom being further away and not adjoining and the stairs being carpeted, I don't see how it could be that disruptive? I think your neighbour is possibly just being a bit crabby for a reason not related to you. Obviously the trigger point of your son and his friend galloping up and down and calling to each other has escalated her annoyance, and nobody could blame her as that sounds very noisy.

Least said, soonest mended - try to ignore as much as can, and continue being thoughtful about regular living noise. There's only so much you can reasonably do.

I used to have a terrace house with my neighbour's staircase and mine on the same party wall, it wasn't that bad really. I could occasionally hear neighbour running up them but it wasn't disruptive or startling, unlike neighbours on the other side - our living rooms were separated by a gunnel and I still heard them roaring and shouting when football matches were on. Now that was worse as it was loud, very sudden and intense.