Priti Patel

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Anyone else think that was possibly the smuggest walk into Downing Street ever?

Was I alone in praying she would trip up?

Dh and I were discussing that this is a Cabinet of failures. Of all of them, maybe only Javid is superficially competent.

*I am disappointed in mumsnet for not deleting this thread, and absolutely DISGUSTED with many posters on here, who should be ashamed of themselves. There are some nasty, despicable posts on this thread. Plain and simple nasty.

Shame on you all.

Hiding this thread now. It's ugly and putrid.*

That's an absolutely hysterical overreaction. Politicians, male and female are not above criticism and in fact should be held to account for their behaviour and decisions as our representatives in parliament. If that makes you uncomfortable perhaps a democracy isn't for you.

It is possible to criticise women, you know. Especially ones who say starving Ireland is a viable policy.

A friend worked with TM at the Home Office and said the blinding inability to understand simple budgets and principles was shocking.

I think this may be quite common. I know someone who was in a senior role at HMRC for many years. A couple of years after Blair was elected, he told me that it was the first time we had a chancellor who understood the tax system and how it works.

And I can't remember the last time we had a housing minister who really had a grasp of how easy it is to become homeless and how tough the obstacles to getting housing are to overcome.

Give it a rest tories. I shall criticise whoever the fuck I like.

Why ae you telling us about your 'big house' Fibkke?

Garden tax!

Ok so let me get this straight.

We’re not allowed to criticise someone who put forward threatening to starve the Irish as a legitimate policy because she’s female and from an ethnic minority.

Riiight

She’s a disgusting piece of work. HTH.

In the interests of absolute fairness I have to say that I didn't read her comment like that - more that she was suggesting it should be pointed out to us (the Irish) what would happen if there was a no-deal Brexit. We already know, anyway. There will be a hard border, and a possible return to fighting in the North. Arlene Foster prefers that prospect to the kind of deal that the rest of Northern Ireland wants, a deal which would be very good for their industries.

TBH I don't believe the whole 'food shortages' thing anyway. Yes, a lot of our food comes from Britain, but we're an agricultural country. Plus we've been ramping up our imports from elsewhere, and have the huge new 'Brexit Buster' ships direct from Ireland to the continent, to avoid the landbridge. I can't get my head around the fact that the smaller of them has 5.4km of lane space for lorries.
uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ireland-economy-exports/irish-goods-exports-hit-record-level-as-reliance-on-britain-falls-idUKKCN1Q41K9

We panicked sooner than the UK, so started disaster preparation the second Brexit was voted for.

She certainly comes across as a towering intellect not in debate with Ian Hislop on Question Time: twitter.com/FucknoMr/status/1154146544293224455

Garden tax!

Which isn't Labour policy.

Do you actually read beyond what the MSM tell you? All the Labour manifesto said was that they would look at ways to reform council tax, and then listed several possibilities including garden tax.

Council tax is a regressive tax, that's not a good thing. Garden tax is a fairer system but in no way means you'll end up paying thousands. All it means is that the council needs to raise a certain amount, and those with larger properties pay a higher proportion than those in smaller properties.

Not that bad when you actually look at the detail, is it?

Those with land pay more. It's a tax designed to punish those in rural areas. Stop telling me its not policy, it might be and will hit us hard. Its a serious suggestion.

I read about it in two broadsheets, I googled labour discussions on it and I know what it means. Don't be so patronising.

Stop telling me its not policy, it might be and will hit us hard. Its a serious suggestion.

So might unicorns. It's not policy. There was a discussion document about it some years ago but that was from an outside organisation. So still not policy or anything near it.

A council only has to raise a finite amount of money. Someone with a large property should pay more than someone with a small property, but that's still going to be limited to their allocation of the total amount to be raised.

Your concerns and beliefs are not based in reality. It's not patronising to point that out.

So what is Labour policy?

I like her.

I see the Guardian smearing her, calling her "far right".

MN now trying to do the same.

:“We will initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options such as a land value tax, to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term."

That's literally all the manifesto said. None of this conjecture that you're taking as fact.

I can't believe that you're more worried about a proposal to review council tax, than a nasty bigot like Patel in such a position of power.

Criticising someone for the way they walk ... only this kind of petty vitriol on MN

I don't care how she walks. I care that she thinks starving Ireland is a legitimate policy.

She is a walking disaster area.

She’s soon be out on her ear again.

*”We will initiate a review into reforming council tax and business rates and consider new options such as a land value tax, to ensure local government has sustainable funding for the long term."

I know this thread is not about this, but surely the only fair thing to do would be to means test people for council tax?

I live in a 4 bedroom property with a garden, but am a single parent on 21K a year.

Bold fail, sorry.

The issue with council tax is that it doesn’t go direct to the council. It first goes to central government who then redistribute it and provide extra funding.

That’s how they’ve been able to cut funding for councils without such an uproar because people don’t quite realise that’s how it works.

Local government can never be self funded because of all of their responsibilities.

She basically committed treason

How on earth could you means test for council tax? Just think about it - every change of circumstances would affect what you pay. Retirement, job change, promotion, redundancy, another child, partner leaves or dies - all requiring a change. It would be a huge job creation scheme and cost £millions.