So Boris Johnson is the new PM.

[AngeloMysterioso]

Aaaaaaaaand we’re fucked.

PekingFaintly in one of the televised hustings he was fairly unequivocal in his support for leaving those schools teaching LGBTQ alone, and stated that he was happy for people to love and marry whoever they wanted to. I am inclined to believe him on this because it makes sense with his general feeling that the state should intervene as little as possible in people’s lives.

He is by no means the greatest living LGBTQ ally alive, but he’s not cut from the Rees-Mogg cloth, and I think he’s less likely to erode abortion rights in the way Hunt might have done had he won.

As I said upthread, best of a bad bunch, trying to stay positive and such...

I agree about Rory.

Oh yes! And many MNetters shunned Theresa May. Exactly. We should have supported her shit deal. The alternative is unthinkable.

Rory was just gonorrhea to Boris being syphilis. Another Tory snake in the grass.

Brown didn't cause austerity that is a conservative idea that really punishes the poor

If I were young I would be throwing myself under the nearest rich bloke money is the only protection from the government unfortunately for me I'm 44 chubby and a single mom to three one who is on dla and I'm losing my job this week oh the fucking Joy's

Yup - I support Trump, Boris and Farage!

Roussette it’s a very great shame that Rory Stewart is resigning. He seems very decent - Tory or not - and could have been a really informed, experiences and relatively conciliatory Foreign secretary.
Oh well.

Fuck, a clown is running our country,

Watching to see how he copes with Brexit now. I am expecting a full U turn when he realises he can’t leave with No Deal and that creating a deal isn’t going to be “the easiest deal in history” after all. I appreciate it was likely NOT Boris who said this but he left it unchallenged at the time.

it makes sense with his general feeling that the state should intervene as little as possible in people’s lives.

Mm. In the US, this can manifest as the state intervening as little as possible when it comes to service provision – leaving essential services such as healthcare and education provided by (or heavily dependent on) religious bodies and employers.

Which then get to intervene in people's lives by leveraging the immense power that position hands them.

It's a mistake to imagine that when power is taken away from "the state" – a democratically elected (usually!) government – that it moves into the hands of the individual little people. Power not held by the state often ends up in the sticky and unaccountable hands of the very wealthy or very corporate.

I would apologise for digressing off topic, but sadly I don't think that is off topic for what we're facing now...

But that aside, yes, I bloody hope Johnson doesn't revert to his previous stance on LGB+ stuff.

Rory Stewart knows. That is what I like about him.

He is a future PM with brains, intelligence, gravitas and common sense.

So he will NEVER be elected for that post I suppose.

Totally agree Woof I was very impressed with him in the early hustings , given the choice there was!

All Boris seems to bang on about is keeping positive, looking on the bright side, glass half full... it'll all work out blah blah, plus a few jokes, silly faces and stupid phrases thrown in.
I think he's going to burn

Rory knows? He voted for all the austerity policies that have landed many people, many of them disabled, into abject misery and even contributed to their deaths, all in the name of punishing the less fortunate, it hasn't saved any money. He's another clown-faced Tory git out for himself. Utterly delusional to think he's somehow better than all the rest of them, his voting record shows otherwise.

God. Help. Us.
Clowns to the right of us, jokers to the left.
I will never vote again, spoil the paper every time.

I'd love to leave the country SilverySurfer and take my liberal and remainer views with me but unfortunately nobody would want me as I'm too bloody old, and the whole 'go back where you come from' thing is too far back in family history for me.

All the old daily mail reading, tory voters like you can have your brexit and your ruined country, your Farage and Johnson and all the other self serving arses and rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.

Unfortunately for me, I'm going to be stuck here getting older and more vulnerable as the years pass with no NHS.

It amuses me how so many pro-Brexiteers think we can turn our backs on Europe (if they don't give us what we want).
We'll replace the trade by re-establishing our old pre-EU trading alliances (the Commonwealth);
improving trade with China; going to the front of the queue with the USA etc.
What a load of bollocks.
The Commonwealth countries forged trade links elsewhere once we dumped them; and both China and the USA are strong enough to get the better side of any deal with the UK.
Trouble is Boris Johnson lives in the past along with the 90,000 odd members who elected him today. Even his 'do or die' language is 50 years out of date.

As from tomorrow the country is a second rate Circus run by a third rate Clown.

"Graphista. i think you're in Scotland and I'm about as far from you as I can be as on the Lizard but if I can do anything to help please let me know and I hope you are coping fairly well." That genuinely moved me to tears. Thank you so much for such kind thoughts. We are just about managing. I'm clinging on to legacy benefits for dear life as UC + mentally ill = disaster generally. I'm also seeing my dr later in week - I've managed to get a house call after over 18 months housebound and Cmht majorly letting me down - in part due to cuts. So I'm HOPING that dr can get SOMETHING in place for me to get support to get better.

Rory is not some fluffy teddy bear either - I really do wish people wouldn't fall for PR nonsense and actually look beyond the gloss and see the reality. Rory is a plastic soldier (only served for a matter of months in incredibly protected roles) from immense privilege (yet ANOTHER Etonian), a low level insidious warmonger while also voting against policies which would support and protect ordinary serving soldiers, consistently voted against better welfare benefits AND job creation policies, but FOR tax cuts for the rich, with only an academic knowledge of real life, who no more cares for ordinary people than Johnson, hunt, gove or any other tory! He's as Tory blue as ANY of them!!

"Utterly delusional to think he's somehow better than all the rest of them, his voting record shows otherwise." Absolutely!

Today reminds me of this....

Slippery lol plenty of women with well off blokes who live like prisoners and get very little to spend... I could have had a rich bloke when I was in my late teens but couldn't sacrifice my values... Was a wise decision. Many on here are sheltered from the wrath of this government so will just not understand. No one is safe at the moment, even the rich often lose it all. Unfortunately it's the middle classes currently suffering the huge increase in theft of property crime. Hell it was just on the radio yesterday a woman forced to sell herself because of universal credit, doesn't surprise me I had to make the same choice at 18 when they wanted to take my housing benefit for daring to go to college. Escorting seemed a better option then and financially it was, I'd never make as much money doing anything else sadly. Same for many women I met on the job.

@pigsDOfly, my position entirely. I’m genuinely frightened about how people our age are going to fare, embroiled in this bloody shambles that I’d give ten years of my life not to have witnessed.

there is a deafening silence online - for the most part - from those who voted Leave, Brexit Party and will now in all likelihood return the Tories to majority Government at the next GE.

Not a chance. A short period of the Johnson will be sufficient to bury the Tories for the next decade. I hope.

Cunt would have been just as bad wouldn't be?

SilverySurfer

Spending too much time reading the inane outpourings of Trump again?

Here's the view from my side of the pond.

Here’s what we know about new UK PM Boris Johnson and what he means for Brexit