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It's High Crimes and Misdemeanours Time! Trump thread no. 95

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Roussette · 23/07/2019 08:05

I thought it was about time I started a thread so here it is! Mueller time tomorrow...

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/mueller-report-trump-nadler-impeachment

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TheClaws · 08/08/2019 04:26

But to say “rock star” on such on occasion is simply the height of inappropriateness. It’s sickening.

Roussette · 08/08/2019 07:31

"The President was treated like a Rock Star inside the hospital, which was all caught on video. They all loved seeing their great President!"

So, not only does the POTUS with his paper thin ego, need to big himself up all the time on Twitter ('your favourite President, etc) but other people have to do it for him too.

Agree Claws. I'm damn sure if I was visiting those gunned down in a massacre in a hospital, I would not want to be described as a rock star. What is it with these idiots?

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/08/2019 09:10

If saying that Trump did the right things in the hospital and was well received was misrepresenting what happened, what did he do to those poor victims?

These White House people lie on autopilot. Do you suppose Dan Scavino Jr had actually seen the footage he was "lashing out" about, or did he just make a set of invalid statements about it in total ignorance?

yolofish · 08/08/2019 09:27

Anyone remember those little cards you could have made that said something along the lines of "I do not want to be visited by Margaret Thatcher while in hospital"? Business opportunity right there. I cannot imagine anything worse than being visited by the Orange One.

PerkingFaintly · 08/08/2019 09:30

yolofish, I was thinking of those! It was called being "Thatched", after she'd inflicted herself (with cameras, obvs) on the injured after some disaster.

yolofish · 08/08/2019 09:36

yes perking! on balance, if I had to choose, I'd take Mrs T though.

Roussette · 08/08/2019 11:03

Two interesting tweets this morning...

News via
@BobMooreNews
--> None of the eight victims still being treated at El Paso's University Medical Center agreed to meet with President Trump today when he visited the hospital

and this...

#SheWon
@ooshdesign
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5h
Replying to
@PhilipRucker

@thepoliticalcat
and
@BobMooreNews
We are told the people in the photo aren’t employees of this hospital

Tweeter please can we identify them ?
We need to know if they are paid actors

The second tweet is unsubstantiated I hasten to add. But nothing would surprise me anymore

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Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 08/08/2019 13:46

US immigration: ICE arrests nearly 700 people in Mississippi raids
Children came home to find their parents gone after the co-ordinated immigration raids.
mobile.twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1159370487933394944

AcrossthePond55 · 08/08/2019 13:57

Hell, I'm surprised that ICE didn't stage a raid on the protests in El Paso trying to find illegal immigrants people who work hard and want a better life.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that the hospital visit was completely staged with actors or other non-victims. It also wouldn't surprise me if Scrotus didn't realize it. I'm sure 'staff' have been covering up and soothing his ego for so long now that he doesn't know reality from a 'show'. How easy it must be for McConnell et al to manipulate him. I expect it's why they don't challenge him. Let him have is own reality and he'll do whatever they want.

He reminds me of deluded Norma Desmond; "I'm ready for my close up Mr DeMille McConnell!".

lionheart · 08/08/2019 15:25

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/paul-krugman-gop-terrorism_n_5d4a6e40e4b01e44e4726e9f

'Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman explained in his latest column for The New York Times why he believes the GOP has become “a systematic enabler of terrorism.”

“Don’t pretend to be shocked,” wrote Krugman.

Krugman noted how prominent Republicans had failed to link President Donald Trump’s incitements to violence to a rise in hate crimes following the weekend’s mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, that was carried out by a gunman suspected of holding white supremacist views.'

lionheart · 08/08/2019 15:28

McGahn v. House Judiciary:

www.politico.com/f/?id=0000016c-6dc7-db3c-a1ef-ede7de0f0000

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/08/2019 16:11

lionheart, the quote that leaped out at me from the Krugman piece was

"In effect, then, the Republican Party decided that a few massacres were an acceptable price to pay in return for tax cuts. I wish that were hyperbole, but the continuing refusal of G.O.P. figures to criticize Trump even after El Paso shows that it’s the literal truth."

Lweji · 08/08/2019 16:53

Yes, it turns out none of the victims in hospital agreed to see the clown or have any visitors.

Only two previously discharged.

mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/survivors-of-el-paso-attack-decline-to-meet-with-trump-during-his-hospital-visit-B1l7Yd3R90encGgzy3mJIA/

lionheart · 08/08/2019 18:14

Yes, it's a calculated move. Sad

Roussette · 08/08/2019 18:24

It wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that the hospital visit was completely staged with actors or other non-victims

Word on Twitter is that this is the case.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/08/2019 18:44

Maybe it's simple confusion: the Dayton visit seems to have gone ok from the Trump point of view, with patients available to drool over. The El Paso one is the one that didn't.

But the White House calling foul and claiming misquotation and lies definitely jumped the gun. At that point nobody had said anything in particular against Trump, had they?

AcrossthePond55 · 08/08/2019 19:56

Asking It looks like the Ohio Senator and Dayton Mayor didn't praise Scrotus visit as much as they should have. They basically said the visits went well and Scrotus said what he should say. That wasn't good enough for Scrotus' ego, they didn't use the right superlatives. Ergo, they (the mayor and senator) are lying and misrepresenting.

TheClaws · 09/08/2019 00:39

DNI Deputy Sue Gordon has resigned. (We knew this was coming: it was either this or be pushed.) Trump announced her resignation on Twitter, then followed immediately with a tweet appointing Joseph Maguire to the post of Acting Director of DNI - a post Sue Gordon, by government protocol, should automatically have been entitled.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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I am pleased to inform you that the Honorable Joseph Maguire, current Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, will be named Acting Director of National Intelligence, effective August 15th. Admiral Maguire has a long and distinguished....

career in the military, retiring from the U.S. Navy in 2010. He commanded at every level, including the Naval Special Warfare Command. He has also served as a National Security Fellow at Harvard University. I have no doubt he will do a great job!

lionheart · 09/08/2019 02:48

Nadler:

'"This is formal impeachment proceedings," Nader told CNN's Erin Burnett Thursday on "OutFront."'

edition.cnn.com/2019/08/08/politics/jerry-nadler-impeachment-inquiry/index.html

PerkingFaintly · 09/08/2019 08:03

So he's removed the two top people of the Intelligence Community?

Wonder who helped him to that bright idea?Hmm

As an aside, have you noticed that when people resign, he claims to have sacked them; and when he sacks people, he claims they've resigned (indeed maybe technically they did, but clearly he's told them to).