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To not want to contribute to honeymoon fund

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toooldforthisshite · 22/07/2019 22:00

Friend is getting married for the second time for both of them. They both earn good money but spend over their means (she tells me so and will quite happily admit to maxing several credit cards to pay for £1000+ on a gift, holidays aboard etc expensive trips) they seem to want to out do each other in the elaborate gift giving for birthdays etc.
They have asked for money for their honeymoon. I don't generally agree with people doing this anyway but in this instance it's really bugging me and I don't want to fund their honeymoon when they could budget for that themselves (they are going away a week or so after the wedding to Europe as part of one of these elaborate birthday gifts but they don't want this to be a honeymoon as it's not enough apparently)
I do however want to get them a gift. I'm not sure what though.

OP posts:
HorridHenrysNits · 23/07/2019 16:30

Fortunately you failed equally hard at both.

LaurieMarlow · 23/07/2019 16:31

It's probably better than wasting money on something they don't want isn't it?

Well you’d think, wouldn’t you?

But then we have the ‘its crass’ brigade who don’t seem to give a shit about waste.

Sunshinegirl82 · 23/07/2019 16:34

I actually think the "it's crass to talk about money" attitude is really damaging. Money is important, keeping everything secret until you die is an attitude that causes a lot of stress for a lot of families.

I'm going to hazard a guess that Wombat and I are of different generations. The older generation does tend more towards secrecy with money. That said my mum is 72 and we are completely open with each other about money so of course it does vary.

LottieLucie · 23/07/2019 16:35

@Sunshinegirl82 no 'probably' about it.

plasterboots · 23/07/2019 16:46

We did the whole your presence not presents thing for our 25th Wedding anniversary ...

Still got loads of silver photo frames..... Shock

plasterboots · 23/07/2019 16:47

I actually think the "it's crass to talk about money" attitude is really damaging. Money is important, keeping everything secret until you die is an attitude that causes a lot of stress for a lot of families.

Totally agree and it's the reason the whole gender pay gap was allowed to happen.

GotToGoMyOwnWay · 23/07/2019 17:12

Im interested in the answer to that @BarbaraofSeville

Ohbehave1 · 23/07/2019 17:13

@Iamthewombat so it's ok to accept a gift you don't want and is going to waste the givers money, but it's not ok to say that you don't need anything so if you want to you would rather it be cash to spend on something that will be remembered for ever.

And you have explained nothing. Just that you think it crass to ask for money.

Bit strange really. Most people ask what you want as a wedding gift. So you tell them. It's no different asking for money or a gift.

If you asked for a certain amount I agree it's not really right. But to state that a gift of cash without saying how much is no different to any other gift.

Ohbehave1 · 23/07/2019 17:37

@Iamthewombat. Oh. And they don't have to give anything. Just like they can turn up and give no presents. Or they can turn up and give you toaster no 37 that is no good to anyone.

Iamthewombat · 23/07/2019 17:48

Oooh the venom is pouring out now.

It is possible to find requests for money at weddings vulgar and to be able to talk about money frankly with family and employers, you know.

If you don’t need anything, say no gifts please. Then people choose what to give. They might choose to give money, but the choice will be theirs. That’s not crass.

I’d suggest that the more excitable posters study BarbaraofSeville’s posts. She holds a different view to me but hasn’t resorted to insults and speculation. Neither of which trouble me, BTW

Sunshinegirl82 · 23/07/2019 17:55

We're just going round in circles here...

LaurieMarlow · 23/07/2019 17:59

say no gifts please. Then people choose what to give

And if they choose to give you another toaster that’s a terrible waste.

The point you continually refuse to engage with. But never mind.

plasterboots · 23/07/2019 18:21

Oooh the venom is pouring out now

Not sure it's venom more irritation at your inability to explain why it's crass, why it's tacky.

Nothing more tacky than more vases and photo frames...

anon812 · 23/07/2019 18:23

Just give £40/£50 in a card. Should get them a round of drinks somewhere nice 👍

TheFridgeRaider · 23/07/2019 18:38

How is it "crass" to ask for unspecified amount of money, but not "crass" to ask for 100 quid crockery?

Also. Silver frames😂 Is there anyone who hasn't gotten one?😂

Sunshinegirl82 · 23/07/2019 18:41

Silver frames and bottles of champagne! I've still got bottles in the cupboard from our wedding and we had our 6th anniversary this year! Can't imagine they'll ever get drunk! Such a waste!

TheFridgeRaider · 23/07/2019 18:42

If you don’t need anything, say no gifts please. Then people choose what to give.

But if I say no gifts, why would people bring random gifts?
I really suspect this is more about the gift givers rather than receivers...

This reminds me of my grandma.
"Are you hungry?"
"No, thank you. I have already eaten"
"Here is a giant bowl of goulash and 4 slices of bread. Eat it"
😂

plasterboots · 23/07/2019 18:43

Quite @TheFridgeRaider it's also crass to decide what toaster, kettle, vase or silver photo frame the recipients will receive! It'll obvious be based on the person who has chosen it's lines and not the recipients.

But then I think @Iamthewombat really doesn't care about a little thing like the recipients liking or wanting the gift, I mean why should she "it's just not British is it!"

museumum · 23/07/2019 18:51

Our family contributed to our honeymoon trip to Asia. I can 100% promise dh and I treasure the memories of that trip a million times more than we would a canteen of cutlery or some dinner plates. We think of that trip often and are always so grateful to our friends and family who helped pay for it.
I really don’t care if you all think we’re “grabby” and vulgar.

plasterboots · 23/07/2019 18:53

Well said @museumum, who remembers who gave them a canteen of cutlery 25 years later... you'll always remember your fabulous honeymoon.

evilharpy · 23/07/2019 19:14

We said gifts were not necessary but if you really want to give something, give us some money towards a new TV or a honeymoon. People were very generous and we bought a lovely new telly which we still have 11 years later, and the rest went towards enjoying meals and trips on our honeymoon which we still remember.

We did also receive presents. Many, many silver frames, most of which are still in the loft. They were lovely but we’re just not into displaying photos and there’s a limit to how many you need. A beautiful white tablecloth. Really lovely, not cheap. We have never used it because we have never had a table that it would fit. A very nice silver plated salt and pepper set which is at my mum’s, still in its box, because we like maldon salt and a pepper grinder. A set of towels with diamante trim when we are very unblingy people. I have always felt very ungrateful and a bit guilty but we just can’t use these things. Actually we did use the towels in the end but mainly for things like potty training Grin

Ever since we got married I have always either stuck to a gift list if there is one, or given cash. My taste is not the B&G’s taste.

Iamthewombat · 23/07/2019 19:41

This is why Mumsnet is so funny. You get to hear what people really think. Why are certain posters do enraged that I disagree with them when I’m a random stranger on the internet?

Here is why. They realise that other people in real life think the same things, and they can’t bear it.

Consequently the internet stranger must be subjected to a pile on. Unfortunately for you, it has had no effect on me. I continue to hold the same view.

You are free to look up ‘crass’, ‘vulgar’ and ‘tacky’ in a dictionary but I’ll save you the bother. Insensitive, blundering, lacking grace, sophistication and manners.

Asking for money, particularly for a honeymoon, is grasping and reduces your guests to individual funding streams. At least one pro-cash gift poster upthread has noted that anybody opposed to the cash gifts only policy shouldn’t go to the wedding because then the bride and groom won’t have to buy them dinner and a drink. The relationship, in that case, is reduced to a transaction.

Somebody else upthread talks about passing the same £40 around at weddings. That made me laugh.

The bottom line is, if you are getting married why should you tell people to give you money? You’re saying, I know best, and I know what I want from you: cash. I want a fancy honeymoon that I can’t afford, or a new kitchen, whatever, and I’ve decided that you will be paying for it. Dress it up with all the poetry you like: that’s what it is.

If your guests choose to buy you a toaster, and you don’t want a toaster, tough luck. Sell it on eBay or give it to a charity shop. That’s preferable to begging for money.

Incidentally I know why certain posters are desperate for me to define why asking for money is tacky, crass and vulgar. It’s so that they can convince themselves that they are none of those things. Even the type who post insults when somebody disagrees with them. An excellent display of crassness, tackiness and vulgarity.

(Incidentally, I don’t buy toasters or photo frames. I’m happy to clear that up).

Iamthewombat · 23/07/2019 19:44

Not do I regift old glasses from the back of the cupboard, or vases. Does that cover everything?

LottieLucie · 23/07/2019 19:45

Why don't y'all donate the unwanted gifts to charity or a raffle? Smile

plasterboots · 23/07/2019 19:51

The bottom line is, if you are getting married why should you tell people to give you money? You’re saying, I know best, and I know what I want from you: cash. I want a fancy honeymoon that I can’t afford, or a new kitchen, whatever, and I’ve decided that you will be paying for it. Dress it up with all the poetry you like: that’s what it is. *

How is this different than I want a Denby dinner set that I can't afford? @Iamthewombat

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