Moon landings ITV the astronauts are as transparent as...

[whatthewhatthewhat]

The whole hoax!

Seriously! Ffs, you can see the line of horizon, they look green screened on that shit... like when you went to the museum in the 90s and pretended to be superman!

They knew JFK would not keep the secret so they killed him 6 years early to make sure!

Whilst I do not believe it was a hoax, I can understand why some people believe it. Some of the 'evidence' I can see what they are getting at and given the way the world was, the goal was to beat Russia so convincingly faking it to beat Russia would have been a big bonus.

I love the first (pinned) comment by the typical Hoaxtard, who actually knows nothing at all about the history of the Apollo missions:

"It's amazing how Lockheed Martin,,McDonald Douglas,,Boeing,,ect have to go thru so many flight tests and overcome all the obstacles that stand in their way. ... Your (sic) going to believe on the first attempt we went to the moon with out any problems??? How ignorant is that."

He appears to have forgotten the Apollo missions leading up to the actual landing, where all aspects needed to complete the mission were tested and practiced. He's probably never heard of the Gemini missions either, especially the Gemini/Agena missions which specifically laid down the best way to make an orbital rendezvous between two craft, essential for the Apollo missions to work.

@Mordred , you would think it being 11 would give a clue . No accounting for stupid.
Flat Earthers. Holocaust Deniers. Moon landing hoax believers. Same stupid. Sometimes pretty horrible.

@bellinisurge

Yeah I used to argue with them a lot on YouTube, years ago. They have absolutely nothing at all: every single bit of 'evidence' they come up with falls apart if you look into the claims (Radiation!!! Waaahhh!, Van Allen Belts!!!! Too hot!!!).

Every. Single. Bit.

But they never learn and never bother finding out for themselves. Complete echo chamber.

I am no scientist, so can’t judge it for myself, I have to listen to those with the actual expertise telling me it did happen and it was possible with 60s tech. I have no reason to believe they are lying to me.

However, it is a little suspicious that, not only have we not gone back in 48 or so years, but that it’s not been replicated by any other country on Earth in the ensuing decades (China and India are trying really hard; China was supposed to be there by 2019 but obviously won’t make initial projections). Also, well-funded companies like SpaceX cannot manage it either; yet we went like, six times in four years on very primitive technology. It’s fallen out of institutional memory at NASA, everyone who has experience on the moon missions is dead or retired, that alone is a huge loss.

I’m just really salty AF I was too young to see it and just wishing the Chinese will finally figure it out

"However, it is a little suspicious that, not only have we not gone back in 48 or so years, but that it’s not been replicated by any other country on Earth in the ensuing decades "
Because it becomes an ineffective vanity project once it has been done unless there is something more productive to do with it afterwards
Like preparing a launch base for Mars.
Which is what they are doing.
For. Fuck's. Sake.

I thought they were real until I nearly fell off the Earth’s edge.

@CherryPavlova 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Because it becomes an ineffective vanity project once it has been done unless there is something more productive to do with it afterwards

I disagree. The space program wasn’t a vanity project and we have so much modern tech that came out of that. Further moon explorations could have yielded more scientific discoveries if not suddenly abandoned. Think of the advancements that could have come in the ensuing fifty years if it had persisted!

You are not telling me it was a worthless project are you? So much institutional knowledge is just gone, what excuse is there for letting it happen?

Of course it wasn't a worthless project. It was brilliant and what we achieved was astonishing- I'm old, I remember it - I'm just saying that the reason for continuing stopped being economically viable. Manned projects were not appropriate for the further and fantastic exploration of the solar system that we have done and are doing.

Is it really so hard to see that not much more could be got from visiting the moon again after the Apollo mission? The cost/benefit ratio would be against it. Instead they concentrated on building the space stations.

Now technology is advanced enough to try for Mars, the Moon is back in play. It's not rocket science...oh, er!

I watched Stargazing last night and they were showing a piece of kit that turns moondust into building materials so that they can build a moon base for a launch to Mars using ...ahem .... locally sourced materials. You don't need to transport as many building materials up there.
I long for the day we discover even single cell organisms on other bodies in space - take that, creationists!

To anyone stupid enough to believe that the moon landings were faked can I suggest that you watch the MYTHBUSTERS episode about the moon landings. It uses idiot proof experiments and simple enough language for my then 5 year old to understand so I'm sure that you should be able to follow it and see how wrong you are 🤯

Bellini we are going to have to disagree. I feel excellent work could have been done to make a more permanent base on the moon, which would have been the ultimate human effort to live on the moon. What a waste of talent and human institutional knowledge—like I said, ppl who worked on the project are either dead or long retired.

At this rate, it seems like the Viking presence in Canada....just an odd footnote in history. The latest projection for China to land on the moon is 2036; by that time the moon landing will have almost fallen out of living memory, only the elderly would remember it, having seen it as children. (I hope it happens tho)

Not sure we are disagreeing @PineapplePower , just putting different emphasis. I am old enough to remember the moon landings, I would have loved them to go on forever. But not at the expense of other fantastic probes sent to the planets or the Shuttle or the ISS. And it came down to that decision. There wasn't the money.

@PinapplePower

People tend to forget that there were huge plans to continue the moon landings for longer, set up a permanent base there and build a large space station orbiting the Earth during the 70s. A manned mission to land on Mars was planned to leave the Earth in November 1981(following on from an orbit-return mission scheduled for 1978) using ships powered by the NERVA nuclear engine. The engine got as far as the testing stage and worked very well.

I remember collecting an album of cards in the early 70s (anyone else remember the cards you used to get in packs of tea?) showing all the technology then in development. It was all about to get very exciting!

Then funding was cut and Apollo finished with 18.

Imagine where we'd be now if all the money spent on war by all the nations had been pooled and spent on space research and exploration instead? Titan base anyone?

Humanity really is crap, sometimes.

Great link to the cards from the album I mentioned:

www.flickr.com/photos/smallritual/sets/72157621769124876/

All this WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Or so we thought.

I loved the cards

It was one of the most remarkable periods in United States history, especially given the moon program's extraordinary cost and technical difficulty. Here are the major events on the road to the Apollo 11 moon landing — along with some significant moments in history along

1957:
• Oct. 4: The Soviet Union launches Sputnik, the first artificial satellite.
1958:
• Jan. 31: Explorer 1, the first U.S. satellite, is launched; discovers Van Allen radiation belts.
• July 29: The National Aeronautics and Space Act is signed, creating the civilian space agency.
• Oct. 7: NASA starts the Mercury program, leading to development of one-man space capsules designed to prove humans can live and work in space.
1959:
• Jan. 3: Alaska becomes the 49th state.
• Jan. 4: The Soviet Union's Luna 1 becomes the first spacecraft to reach the moon's vicinity.
• Feb. 16: Fidel Castro becomes prime minister of Cuba.
• April 9: Seven astronauts are selected for the Mercury program: Alan Shepard, Virgil "Gus" Grissom, John Glenn, Scott Carpenter, Wally Schirra, Gordon Cooper and Donald "Deke" Slayton.
• December: NASA begins development of Saturn rockets.



America's first astronauts
1960:
• July: Apollo is selected as the name for NASA's advanced manned space flight program.
• Nov. 8: John F. Kennedy elected president of the United States.
1961:
• April 12: Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin becomes first man in space.
• April 17: Bay of Pigs invasion.
• May 5: Alan Shepard becomes the first American in space.
• May 25: President John F. Kennedy proposes landing astronauts on the moon before the end of the decade: "I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to Earth."
1962:
• Feb. 20: John Glenn becomes the first American to orbit the Earth.
• July: In a crucial milestone, NASA officials approve lunar orbit rendezvous as the technique that will be used for manned moon flights. Under this scheme, two spacecraft will be launched to the moon. Once in lunar orbit, one will descend to the surface and later rejoin the other for the trip back to Earth. This concept evolves into the three-man Apollo capsule and lunar landing module.
• Sept. 12: JFK speech at Rice University: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
• Oct. 16-28: Cuban missile crisis.
1963:
• Aug. 28: Martin Luther King gives "I have a dream" speech at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington.
• September: JFK urges space cooperation with Soviet Union. Premier Nikita Khrushchev does not respond.
• Nov. 16: JFK visits Cape Canaveral for the final time and comes away with renewed enthusiasm for the Apollo program.
• Nov. 22: JFK assassinated in Dallas. Lyndon Johnson sworn in as president.


German rocket pioneer Werner Von Braun and John F. Kennedy during the president's final visit to Cape Canaveral.
NASA
1964:
• May: A Saturn 1 rocket blasts off on first flight of "dummy" Apollo spacecraft.
• July 2: Civil Rights Act signed by President Johnson.
• Nov. 28: Mariner 4 launched; first spacecraft to image Mars.
1965:
• March 7-25: Civil rights marches in Selma, Alabama.
• March 18: Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov carries out the first spacewalk.
• March 23: Virgil "Gus" Grissom and John Young take off in the first flight of a two-man Gemini capsule. The Gemini program was developed to perfect orbital rendezvous and spacewalk techniques needed by the Apollo program.
• Aug. 6: Voting Rights Act signed by President Johnson.
1966:
• Feb. 26: First launch of the Saturn 1-B rocket carrying an unmanned Apollo spacecraft.
• March 16: Astronauts Neil Armstrong and David Scott are launched aboard Gemini 8; the flight is aborted early because of a thruster malfunction.
• July 18: Astronaut Michael Collins blasts off aboard Gemini 10; Collins completes two spacewalks.
• Sept. 8: "Star Trek" debuts.
• Nov. 11: Astronaut Buzz Aldrin takes off with James Lovell aboard Gemini 12 and carries out three spacewalks.



50 years of stunning spacewalks
1967:
• Jan. 15: First Super Bowl.
• Jan. 27: Apollo 1 launch pad fire kills astronauts Virgil "Gus" Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee.
• Feb. 10: 25th Amendment adopted, outlining rules for presidential succession.
• Nov. 9: The first flight of a Saturn 5 rocket is successful.


The Apollo 1 crew – Roger Chaffee, left, Ed White, center, and Gus Grissom – were killed in a launch pad fire that led to a redesign of Apollo command modules.
NASA
1968:
• April 2: "2001: A Space Odyssey" premiers in Washington DC
• April 4: Martin Luther King assassinated in Memphis.
• April 11: Civil Rights Act of 1968 enacted.
• Oct. 11: Astronauts Wally Schirra, Walter Cunningham and Donn Eisele are launched on the first manned test flight of the Apollo spacecraft, Apollo 7.
• Nov. 5: Richard Nixon elected president.
• Dec. 21: Astronauts Frank Borman, James Lovell and William Anders orbit the moon during the Apollo 8 mission, the first manned flight of a Saturn 5 rocket and only the second mission in the Apollo program.
1969:
• March 3: Astronauts James McDivitt, Russell Schweickart and David Scott test the lunar module in Earth orbit during the Apollo 9 mission.
• May 18: Astronauts Thomas Stafford, Eugene Cernan and John Young test the lunar module in orbit around the moon during the Apollo 10 mission.
• July 16: Astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin become the first humans to walk on another planet during the Apollo 11 mission. Crewmate Michael Collins remains behind in lunar orbit aboard the Apollo 11 command module.
• Aug. 15-18: Woodstock music festival.
• Oct. 29: First electronic message exchange with ARPANET, the foundation of the internet.
• Nov. 14: Astronauts Pete Conrad, Alan Bean and Richard Gordon blast off aboard Apollo 12, kicking off the second piloted lunar landing mission.

The pig thing had a LOT to do with it. America was humiliated. The Russians were winning the space race. It was PR at it's finest.

China only managed to land a rover in 2013!
China, who pisses all over everyone else with their technological advances! Come on people, it was a stunt. Kubrick filmed it, with shots from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

@whatthewhatthewhat

"Kubrick filmed it, with shots from 2001: A Space Odyssey."

I do hope you're being sarcastic. The actual moon surface looked nothing like the way Kubric portrayed it.

Look up the 'training shots' that they took... look almost identical to all to the 'real' pics

training shot

China, who pisses all over everyone else with their technological advances!

No it doesn't.

12 most technologically advanced nations in the world 2018:
1.Japan. Japan is well-known for its scientific research.
2.United States. The advances in space technology have played a significant role in making the United States of America a global superpower. ...
3.South Korea. ...
4.Israel. ...
5.Germany. ...
6.Russia. ...
7.Finland. ...
8.United Kingdom.
9.Canada
10. Singapore
11. Netherlands
12. China.

I should imagine in the '60's it would have been much further down the list.

Depends on your sources

Here are the list of 15 countries with the most advanced technology in the world :
1 Japan. Japan is a country that has potential in developing technology. ...
2 United States of America. United States is one of the most fastest growing technological countries in the world. ...
3 South Korean. ...
4 Germany. ...
5 China. ...
6 India. ...
7 England. ...
8 Canada.

China has transformed itself from being seen as “the world’s factory” to becoming a hive of technology innovation, with ideas that leapfrog the West
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hina has transformed itself from being seen as “the world’s factory” to becoming a hive of technology innovation, with ideas that leapfrog the West.
From artificially intelligent virtual news broadcasters to mobile payments (even street beggars now take payments via phone and QR code), China’s 731 million internet users are embracing change at breakneck speed. Meanwhile, government initiatives such as “Made in China 2025” are designed to advance the country's tech and increase ideas-driven innovation