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To believe this is racist?

136 replies

Bottletopsx · 11/07/2019 10:21

Bought a teapot on ebay, arrived with an old break very obvious so asked to return. After several abusive emails this was the last one I received after seller had to refund me.

You know what?
Keep the junk as you describe it. I don’t want it back. In my views it’s been contaminated with Englishness. I’m only selling things because I’m leaving this hate filled country, anyway.
My experience with you was another interesting example why this stupid country should not be part of a civilised community of countries. Never do business with the English. Too right, I’m afraid to say.
Enjoy a nice English tea time on me.
I can’t wait to go back to my home country.
#GammonComeInAllShapesAndSizes

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BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 11/07/2019 10:48

I think I'd be tempted to ignore the fact youre not English and just send back- thanks for the free crap, with a xenophobic attitude like that rest assured England doesnt want you here any more than you want to be here. Safe travels!

SerendipityJane · 11/07/2019 10:49
Bloke23 · 11/07/2019 10:51

Not racist. Just 1 of many people that hate the English, I personally love it

MindyStClair · 11/07/2019 10:52

It sounds as if there were several emails exchanged before it reached this point. Could any of your responses be antagonistic - perhaps the straw breaking the camel's back?

It sounds like she described the item as ‘junk’, which is unnecessary in an eBay message exchange. I know sellers can absolutely be dickish when they get an ‘item not as described’ claim, but there’s no need to get into it with them - just state the basic facts with photographic proof and if they don’t make things right eBay will resolve it.

JammyGem · 11/07/2019 10:54

If you're Welsh then it's not directed at you- I'd just reply with something along the lines of "I'm Welsh, not English, you ignorant moron".

TheInebriati · 11/07/2019 10:57

SerendipityJane great minds think alike Grin

PositiveVibez · 11/07/2019 10:59

Not racist. English people are not a race. As pp's have said, it's anti-English.

Madein1995 · 11/07/2019 11:03

Re the Welsh abuse, ime it's not actual heavy abuse but certainly casual stereotypes. They think we're all like the TV show the valleys and wear fake tan and sleep about.

We're perceived as being poor, not much opportunities, huge unemployment, social issues, drugs etc. We're perceived as coming from an insulsr, violent and hard environment.

BertrandRussell · 11/07/2019 11:03

It’s not racist. It is xenophobic. But mostly it’s bonkers. Ignore.

Oh and no you wouldn’t be in court if you said that about any other group.

ghostyslovesheets · 11/07/2019 11:05

no It’s not

popehilarious · 11/07/2019 11:05

@SerendipityJane was just thinking of that! These days you get thrown in jail.

PandaToTheMasses · 11/07/2019 11:08

I don't think you don't get to call it racist if you substitute English for some other word. Just do what every other eBayer does and raise a claim for a refund then move on.

redexpat · 11/07/2019 11:08

I dont think this is about you or the English. Someone is having a shit time and exploded on your email. Shrug your shoulders and move on.

MissBootyBass · 11/07/2019 11:08

Oh dear. It's anti-English for sure but do you really care? It's not the most offensive thing I've ever read. I've experienced racism, it's pretty horrific when it happens and leaves you feeling incredibly vulnerable. Racism makes you question your whole identity and can leave you feeling shaken, angry, confused etc. How did you honestly feel when you read that post?

CassianAndor · 11/07/2019 11:11

racist - no
xenophobic - possibly
not worth a single second's headspace - definitely

Opossooom · 11/07/2019 11:37

They’re clearly just a twat and it would rile me up OP. I’ve actually been a victim of racism and people didn’t take it seriously because I’m white. One of the things said we’re “you stupid white bitch”. I was actually so upset. CF! Move on x

MissBootyBass · 11/07/2019 11:43

Opossom, sorry you experienced that. Sounds very upsetting indeed. You say you weren't taken seriously because you were white. I'm in no way condoning the behaviour of the perp, but you might find it helpful to read up about the differences between racism towards ethnic minorities and ethnic majorities. Neither are ok, however being called a stupid white bitch, will have likely had an entirely different effect on you compared to someone of an ethnic minority being called the equivalent.

BishopofBathandWells · 11/07/2019 11:48

Check out the letter to David Lammy that he tweeted about this morning for actual racist correspondence. FWIW I'm Welsh too OP. I'd have been pissed off at the annoyance of buying a broken item and then being met with the response you got, but it's not racist.

LazyFace · 11/07/2019 11:51

It is xenophobic, yes. Unfortunately quite a few of my fellow countrypeople think like this. Thus I don't have many friends amongst them.

TwistyTop · 11/07/2019 11:57

I think the person who sold you the teapot may actually have some serious MH issues... I wouldn't read too much into this strange email.

Bottletopsx · 11/07/2019 12:19

I did not describe anything as junk as the seller says, total lie. I was polite even though in one of her messages she said I was the scum of the earth, should not be allowed to walk the earth, white trash, mental c**t etc etc

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SylviaAndSidney · 11/07/2019 12:22

Ooh just calmly tossing in the white trash part there...

Bottletopsx · 11/07/2019 12:25

There was a lot more than this. But whatever.

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SylviaAndSidney · 11/07/2019 12:29

So you want to present something as racist yet don't mention the comment regarding skin colour in your opening post?

Sure.

MissBootyBass · 11/07/2019 12:31

Why did you omit those details from your OP, OP?

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