New job expects employees to work a month in hand?

[MoominMantra]

I've just started a new job and our contract just states we get paid on 28th of each month. When I asked about when we're paid she said we get paid for June on 28th July, July on 28th August and this essentially means that I have to work 6 weeks without any money which seems unfair to me.

What would be the reason behind this?

standard where I work (local authority) although you can ask for an advance if needed

When did you start? Can understand if you started the last week in June and it’s to late to sort Pay role so you get paid end of July. But are you saying if you started 1st July you would get paid 28th Aug?

I don't know the reasoning behind it but I have always had that. I work as a teacher and have had that in each position and authority I've worked in. When I was on supply we were paid in the middle of each month (a month behind) so I also had an odd cross over point where I wasn't paid for 6 weeks.

I suppose it will be good when you leave! You'll get a bit extra money.

Depends when you started. Our payroll shuts 3 days before (it's a small company), so if you started after 25th June then you wouldn't get paid till 28th July.

Are you moving from weekly to monthly pay?

its not abnormal, many employers do this so it’s easier to recoup costs (such as overpayment of holiday pay) from the final wage of you end mid year.

I do wish that these things where more explicit when you sign a contract for a new job however, I can imagine it’s really tough x

where I work payroll for the next month has to be 'in' by the first (expenses etc) for payment on the 15th so I am guessing it's too late to process - hence the 6 weeks

Isn’t this standard? It’s been the same I every job I’ve ever had

Surely they've made a mistake?

Everywhere I've worked has been 'a month in hand', what you're describing is upto 2 months in hand, if you started on the 1st of July, it would be over 8 weeks later before you got paid???

I did 6 weeks. Standard that they put you through with the next full months pay toll

Standard here too, always has been.

Normal in my past two or three jobs.

Oh hang on your example is actually saying TWO months in hand?

No that’s not normal!

I would check if an advance of salary is available for new starters. The CS does this so new employees don't have to wait for weeks for their first wage.

Always paid in arrears unless I start before payroll cut off.

It's normal in a lot of places.

Where I am you get paid for each month as you work it, but any overtime is paid a month behind (so May's overtime is in June's paycheck).

It is not normal for anyone I know. You may get a delay first month due to timing eg get paid 6 weeks on 28th of July as missed cut off for 28th of June. But 28th of August would be for work done in August.

Who is "she" could she be mistaken?

I have never known this. If you miss payroll you may have to wait e.g. 6 weeks for pay but normally then get 6 weeks pay. So if you start say 16 june you might not get paid until 28th july but that would be 6 weeks so you would have caught up not two weeks.

I'd be very surprised if most people are paid 2 months in arrears, despite many claiming it up thread (i suspect some have misread) 1 month is typical.

Gosh, I get paid on 15th of month for the whole month, ie 2 weeks in arrears and 2 weeks ahead.

I’ve never had this in teaching - you get paid on the last working day of the month but it’s for that month, not the month before. So you get your first pay on the last day of September, not October.

I expected this when I started a new job on 2 Jan, but was very surprised to receive pay on 28 January. Also, with our expenses allowances (eg mileage for training courses) is paid with the current month with a cut off date of 20th. We also get our pay slips emailed a week in advance and have 2 working days to raise any queries if we want them sorted in the current month. Overtime is still paid a month in arrears.
I was very pleasantly surprised, I tell you. But whilst not paying the highest rates this company has a very good rep for staff conditions.
Although I am on a fixed 25 hrs/week contract, so perhaps that's why it seems so straightforward.

Historically I think you worked the equivalent of your notice period in hand. ie; a months notice period equals a month in hand when you start. It stops you walking out without working notice.

Where I work, if you start before a certain point in the month, you'll get a part payment. But I think that's quite lucky considering the other posts!

Sounds normal to me

I have had this in posts that are paid on timesheets as opposed to salary.