New job expects employees to work a month in hand?

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I've just started a new job and our contract just states we get paid on 28th of each month. When I asked about when we're paid she said we get paid for June on 28th July, July on 28th August and this essentially means that I have to work 6 weeks without any money which seems unfair to me.

What would be the reason behind this?

I get paid like this. So, I get paid for June at the end of July.

Oh, I’ve just re read your OP and you’re two months in hand. That’s a bit more unusual.

Who is ‘She’ in the scenario? Could she have got it wrong
Take it up with someone more senior or who runs the payroll. Nobody can go 8 weeks without being paid.

This happened to me once - a very badly run organisation. I would check with Acas as hanging on for weeks and weeks to pay employees can be illegal.

I think people are getting confused. I am a finance director, and have never run payrolls "a month in hand" as that would imply you start on 1 January, get paid 1 months salary on 28th February and ARE STILL OWED a month pay for work already done.

What people are talking about is the various cutoff rules, so, depending on when you start it could be six weeks until you get paid.

I am fairly certain that, if you are paid monthly, when you get paid, you are getting paid for the full calendar month you are in.

CAVEAT - I have only worked in the private sector, so accept the public sector could do something totally different.

Everywhere I have ever worked does this.

Are you expecting them to pay you for a month before you’ve worked any of it?

My company does this. Everyone Active. Timesheets in for June on 1st July. Paid about 25th July.

I’ve been paid like this when I worked for a quango so I worked April and April was paid at the end of May and this system continued all the time.
Another job in the public sector I was paid for April at the end of April and any over time or expenses for April were paid at the of May.
Private sector and charity sector jobs have always paid at the end of the month worked in full including overtime and expenses.

In my workplace, as long as we can verify you have started by the 20th, you get paid even if we run the risk of you leaving 3 days before month end and therefore being overpaid. I would think no matter how complex a payroll is, 12th is a bit early as surely your paperwork is ready well in advance and can therefore be processed even if payroll cut off is the 10th. Unfortunately they will have their rules in place and the only person to blame would be the one who did not inform you before you accepted the post. I would ask if their deadline was indeed earlier, or if someone had forgotten to hand your paperwork in (that happens too - if it was human error I would insist on getting paid)

'So you will have worked 6 weeks, then on payday will receive 2 weeks pay? '

Yes. And I'm out of pocket to the tune of £300 which I've paid out in travel costs (for training I've been sent on in other cities) in June which I also won't receive until the end of July with my wages.

I feel like crying tbh. I work extremely hard and every job I get has some problem. Maybe that's just life?

Private sector here, financial services, and this is the norm. Both public and private sector I have always worked a month in hand. Is this your first job OP?

Are you expecting them to pay you for a month before you’ve worked any of it?

No! RTFT

She's expecting to get paid at the end of the month she's just worked. This is normal. It's possible due to start dates and payroll deadlines that in the first month the deadline is missed and the pay for that month is carried over to the following payroll. It is not normal for salaried employees to be paid a whole month in arrears, so June pay paid at the end of July. It used to be common when people were paid weekly. I have never heard of this in any sector for salaried employees.

A few people have suggested other people are 'confused' if they get paid two months in arrears.
I can assure you I'm not confused. Simply stating that in my company you could paid for work done on 1st June on 25th July. Like many others, clearly.
It's swings and roundabouts. Shit at the beginning of your employment, marvellous at the end.

No it's not my first job. My other jobs weren't like this at all - I've never had to do 6 weeks work and then get paid for only 2

Sorry X post. I assume you will be paid back for your expenses on pay day? It's just a matter of sucking it up until then I'm afraid. At least you have been able to borrow. I'm 2 months behind and glad of it now because if anything happened in this job at least I'd have 2 months pay while I was looking for something else. It's hard when you first start though I know.

Not 'marvellous' if the company folds though abc you've worked 6 weeks for nothing! This is a small business.

It's very common unfortunately OP. Hang in there.

If I hadn't had that job and got that credit card I'd have been in a lot of trouble as the dwp wouldn't pay anything after you began work.

Always struck me as unfair.

I’d seriously double check with someone else - it’s sounds to me like they’ve got it wrong. If you started on 12th June surely the salary you receive on 28 July will be for six weeks.

You should get paid for all the time you have worked on pay day, so six weeks' work.

This is my current situation as a zero hours contractor. So, I submitted a timesheet on 31st June for the hours I worked in June. I will not see that money until the end of July.
It is driving me MAD.

It's outrageous that people have to wait for over a month to get paid. In the private sector they have always tailored my start state so that I could go on the same month's payroll. Sometimes I've only worked a few days and got paid at the end of the week.

The thing is, it is a very new business. At least it is not uncommon though evidently.

OP, speak to HR and ask for an advance on your salary, or, an operating float (depending on your role).

And yes, for expenses too (in my case, petrol). So last week I bought petrol in advance of travelling to the hourly paid work, but the wages and the petrol allowance will not be paid until 31st August. Bonkers.