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New job expects employees to work a month in hand?

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MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 20:35

I've just started a new job and our contract just states we get paid on 28th of each month. When I asked about when we're paid she said we get paid for June on 28th July, July on 28th August and this essentially means that I have to work 6 weeks without any money which seems unfair to me.

What would be the reason behind this?

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likeafishneedsabike · 10/07/2019 22:06

Going to try the advance thing as advised by PP. Good luck, OP.

Hugless · 10/07/2019 22:08

If only ppl read their contracts. It's usually very clear...

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 22:09

@Hugless how many times? It says nothing of the sort in my contract. It says I'm paid on the 28th. That's it!

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likeafishneedsabike · 10/07/2019 22:11

It’s clear in the contract. Doesn’t make it right or ethical to hold onto money owed to an employee.

topcat2014 · 10/07/2019 22:13

Not uncommon for expenses or overtime to be paid at the end of the second month, I would have thought. Expenses will take more time for checking than basic 1/12 salary calculations.

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 22:13

There isn't an HR unfortunately. It's a very small business.

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starzig · 10/07/2019 22:14

This is normal.

LittleDoritt · 10/07/2019 22:15

Totally normal. I worked for a charity and that's how we did it.

topcat2014 · 10/07/2019 22:16

I am prepared to bet you are paid on 28th for the month you are in. Given your start date it may be six weeks until you first get paid, but you will then get paid for 6 weeks work.

Someone, who hasn't really got a clue, has given you duff info.

Your contract will just say "you will be paid at monthly intervals in arrears, on the nearest working day to 28th".

It may refer to an employee handbook for further info.

Ash39 · 10/07/2019 22:16

I work for the nhs. This is normal. Work I do in August gets paid beginning of October

TheHandsOfNeilBuchanan · 10/07/2019 22:18

We always give people a start date of the 1st. They get paid a month's wage at the end of that month. We tell staff payroll closes on the 20th but in reality we can make urgent changes after that. Overtime, anything to to the 19th is paid the same month, anything after the 19th you get the next month. Expenses are on concur and you get them in under a week from your claim. Public sector.

EB100 · 10/07/2019 22:18

I just realised what you meant. Sorry about that. So nothing to do with payroll cut-off, just always getting paid a month after. That is bad. Didn't realise people actually still do this, although it is good when you leave a job and still get paid a month later. I'm not sure they will grant a pay advance (my work won't) but you can always ask for your expenses to be reimbursed earlier (if expenses is not paid through payroll). Hope you can get something sorted.

lljkk · 10/07/2019 22:18

I have 2 contracts right now... one is temporary position & hourly pay... how OP describes, but that's using time sheets to record hours.: Eg: Deadline to submit timesheets is early July, so hours worked in June are paid at end of July.

Other job is salaried & paid at end of same month: hours worked in June are paid at end of June.

RosaWaiting · 10/07/2019 22:21

Wow, I’ve worked in lots of places and have never had this. It must be a major money issue for most people?

LeatherBottle · 10/07/2019 22:21

I work in payroll and have never heard of this in the 10 years and 700 payrolls I’ve experienced.

Orangeballon · 10/07/2019 22:24

This is unheard of in small business, I have worked on many payrolls but never on a system like this. Make further enquires Op as this is unreasonable.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/07/2019 22:26

You worked June 12-June 30 (end of pay period). You have to wait 30 days after the close of the pay period to be paid? I can understand a lag in pay, but not 30 days! The most lag I've ever had was 10 days.

Honestly, this speaks of a company who is not on sound financial footings and have little or no cash reserves with which to meet payroll. They are having to wait until the end of the following month because they have to wait until all of their 'accounts receivable' have be paid in before they can meet payroll.

I'd be looking for another job.

MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 22:29

The reason I'm frustrated is that all my jobs have been shit and they are all in the same industry. I'm starting to think I should stop doing this because it takes a lot out of me and there's always some problem with money.

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MoominMantra · 10/07/2019 22:29

Perhaps I need a career change.

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londonrach · 10/07/2019 22:30

Vv normal. Can be two months for nhs. In fact i dont know a single job you dont get paid until you work a month unless its cash in hand at end of week. Yanbu

arethereanyleftatall · 10/07/2019 22:31

Omg!!
I'm getting irrationally annoyed at this thread, somewhat overinvested. topcats nonsense post being the latest.
Just because You've (I'm referring to the many people on this thread who appear to know how everyone in the whole world is paid more than the person themselves) always got paid for work on 1st June by the end of June, this does not mean everybody else does.
Many, many people on this thread have stated that they get paid for working on 1st June at the end of July. They are not wrong, confused, making it up, had duff info, or anything else. I'm fairly confident people know how they get paid!!

RosaWaiting · 10/07/2019 22:32

Is it a new company? I’d be worried about any company going bust really

Imagine doing all those days and not getting paid

If you have a chance to rethink, I would.

I hate that employers get away with so much shit.

AbbyHammond · 10/07/2019 22:36

DH works in the NHS and gets paid at the end of the month for that month. That's in roles across a couple of different authorities too.

leghairdontcare · 10/07/2019 22:40

@arethereanyleftatall same frustration but for the opposite reason as I have worked in public services for the last 10 years and this is not common practice for salaried staff. So anyone claiming this is usual in public sector has misunderstood, in my opinion.

Lougle · 10/07/2019 22:44

The NHS is not two months in arrears. They pay you for the current month at the end of the month, then adjustments for the current month get sorted out the following month. So July pay will have July's base pay and June's overtime/sick pay, etc.

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