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To not move my fence?

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compulsiveliar2019 · 08/07/2019 13:52

About a months ago I move my horses into a new paddock on a small farm. On the farm are 3 cottages. The cottages all have a small private garden but also use of a larger communal garden. In one of the cottages there is a family with 2 young boys.

The communal garden sides onto my paddock. There’s kids swings ect in the garden and is clearly where the kids hang out. The younger one is not hers school age but probably not far off. The older one is in school.

My issue is that the kids are left unsupervised in the garden for blocks of time. They are clearly interested in my horses and constantly stand on the fences, shouting at the horses and generally make a nuisance of themselves. I have now had to padlock the gates so they can’t just walk into the field. They are also very rude. The little one when asked to get down off the fence he was standing on replied “ you can’t tell me what to do you don’t live here”. Followed up by “go away you don’t live here” and “hahaha you don’t live here, your bad”. All silly stuff but at that age I would never have spoken to any adult like that ever!
Yesterday I was trying to fill up the horses water trough. The tap is on the far side of the garden from the paddock. I connected to he hose up and turned it on and walked back to the trough so I could clean and fill it. Just after I had got to the trough the littlest one goes and turns the tap of and shouts “you can’t have any water you don’t live here” and runs off laughing.

This type of thing is happening every day. I’m also repeatedly finding balls and toys in the field with the horses that have clearly been kicked or thrown in. I have now stopped giving them back. At first I thought it was a mistake so kindly put them back in the garden for them. Then when it didn’t stop I went and had a word with the parents along with returning all the things that were in my field. They promptly handed them back to the kids (saying “boys will be boys”, and low and behold they are in the field again next day.

I have now had to put electric fencing up in the paddock to keep the horses away from where the children can see them or throw things at them. I really don’t want to have to move the horses because it’s close to home and has good riding. It’s otherwise a great deal.

The parents have got cross because one of the kids (funny enough the little one) has touched my fence and got a shock (shock will hurt but won’t do any damage). He apparently ran off screaming to his mum and the mum has got really cross and wants the fence removed.

The fence is about 10metres into the field which the children are not supposed to be in. There is no way they can have touched my fence without being somewhere they shouldn’t. AIBU to tell her no the fence stays and to keep better control of her kids?

OP posts:
Raindancer411 · 08/07/2019 14:54

Don't the parents realise the risk to the kids from being unsupervised around horses?

I don't have horses but am a horsey person and when my son goes anywhere near one, I watch him careful and always tell him never to go behind them to close.

If it's that far into the field and you have it sign posted, I cannot see a problem.

britnay · 08/07/2019 14:55

Bah, I'd hook it up to the mains

OhNoooNotAgain · 08/07/2019 14:57

I'd definitely move the fence... Further out! They're causing you to lose out on a huge area of the field that you've got exclusive rights to use!

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2019 14:58

I'd have been round to see the parents after they turned off the tap, that's pretty poor behaviour!

Fence is fine for me.

wellbuggerme · 08/07/2019 14:58

@britnay

love it!

1forAll74 · 08/07/2019 15:00

You are not being unreasonable at all. It's a good thing to have your electric fencing. Unfortunately,some people.who don't own horses,and all that this entails,are just uncaring,and not at all switched on to these lovely animals and their needs.

Sometimes children are rude and unsupervised,and have never been taught how to do things,such as this kind of behaviour you have to deal with.Hopefully the little shock off the fence,will teach this child a few things,of what not to do soon.

Jellybeansincognito · 08/07/2019 15:01

I agree about you sending a written warning to them. Also I think it’s necessary you get CCTV, at least then if they injure one of your horses or the children get hurt you’ll have video evidence of their behaviour which protects yourself and your horses.

Also, the parents sound incredibly neglectful. Do you know what school the children are at? Could you contact the head and explain what is happening/ your concerns? I remember at school once my whole year group was reprimanded whilst they tried to find the person responsible for similar behaviours as your OP describes.

Good luck in sorting it.

stucknoue · 08/07/2019 15:03

tiny kids parrot their parents, do they own the house they live in, if not speak to the landlord (or landowner if it's leasehold. Your problem is the adults!

LakieLady · 08/07/2019 15:03

Land owners used to use the same argument for mantraps.

Ffs, the two are not even remotely comparable.

Electric fences are commonplace in the countryside, prefectly safe, and perfectly legal. They don't even hurt, tbh.

Heyha · 08/07/2019 15:04

You're totally NBU. You've tried to educate them, they've not listened, and to be honest a zap off a battery electric fence is far preferable to getting a kick in the head from an upset horse, if they don't have the sense to keep out the way.

It's a shame for you OP as I imagine most kids would be delighted to have horses next to their garden that they could go and pat (and sneak the odd polo mint to which I'm sure you'd have not minded...).

KatherineJaneway · 08/07/2019 15:05

Serves him right the little shit.

Don't move your fence.

redredrobins · 08/07/2019 15:06

I would consider putting a lock on the tap, to stop them playing the same prank and also to ensure they don't leave it running and flood part of your field.
Do not move your fence, your horses need protecting from these undisciplined brats!

liviadrusilla · 08/07/2019 15:07

That's a good idea; put a mantrap down.

(Obviously this is a joke).

Howyiz · 08/07/2019 15:09

Use @TheFlis12345 response.

BlankTimes · 08/07/2019 15:09

I'd also have some sort of CCTV in case the kids do something spiteful to the horses.

Biscusting · 08/07/2019 15:09

Well done OP! Do they not teach kids the country code still!?

cantfindname · 08/07/2019 15:14

So glad my horses are away from all these problems. Nightmare!

Electric fences do no permanent damage as I can attest after being the idiot who leaned across hers to turn it on and zapped both boobs. The only damage was the resulting foul language that would have offended people's ears! Best of all I did the same again two days later...

LakieLady · 08/07/2019 15:17

Do the parents realise it’s not entirely safe for their DC to be wandering over to horses they don’t know? (DSis has one that’s old and would definitely kick a stranger!)

Maybe a sign saying "Keep Out: these horses bite and kick" might encourage the parents to keep the little oiks under control?

SoupDragon · 08/07/2019 15:20

Signs wouldn't help as the kid probably can't read. Anyway, he knows now!

Karigan195 · 08/07/2019 15:20

God don’t do that as otherwise if one did get kicked the signs would establish history and show a knowledge of endangerment. Fall right into civil case damages!

SoupDragon · 08/07/2019 15:20

Signs about the fence that is.

Zilla1 · 08/07/2019 15:22

All seems more than reasonable to me and I should hope to anyone who has experience of farms/horses and parenting.

To try and keep things positive, would it be worth trying to explain to the parents that the purpose of the fence is to keep the horses well away (10m is a large gap) from the children to protect the children. It might be helpful to stick a 'electric fence, please keep away from the horses. Parents, it is your responsibility to keep your children away' sign on the fence. It might be an idea to update the landowner from whom you rent and to advise them about the children placing themselves in danger. If there is an accident, it might be helpful to tie the landowner in and have an audit trail. The householder's lease or title might cover this but do you have appropriate liability insurance and did you check the landowner does? Might be an idea to be confident you don't have any exposure.

Chovihano · 08/07/2019 15:25

Tell her to teach her kids how to behave then they won't get a shock. She can always put up a fence just inside yours on their side then the kids won't touch your fence.
It's not your problem.

JennaOfEluria · 08/07/2019 15:26

I wouldn't move the fence, but would have another word with the parents making explicit the damage a horse can do to a small child if it feels threatened and as you've taken precautions above and beyond the basic requirements (suitable fencing on private land) it would be their responsibility.

Pretty certain even the most feckless of parents wouldn't want their child to have a crushed ribcage or shattered skull because "boys will be boys"

I'm convinced some people have no conception of just how much harm a horse can cause a person...even if they live in the country!

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