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To still feel shaken / upset at hospital

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26mcjrfm · 07/07/2019 20:27

This may be long, apologies.

I gave birth to my DD2, 2 weeks ago. I went to admissions when contractions were 4 in 10mins and I was in significant pain. The midwife was very rough with me, and triggered a panic attack when she examined me. She wouldn’t let DP in to the room as I had requested during the examination (?) She then informed me that I was not in labour at all as I was only 2cm, and suggested I was widely exaggerating my pain. I started crying at this stage, and got very panicked and upset, so she agreed to admit me to the antenatal ward until I had established labour. I asked would I have access to pain relief there and she assured me I could have gas and air and anything bar an epidural.

DD1 was back to back, and from the scans, so was DD2. During my labour with DD1, I was contracting continuously but was not dilating. I laboured like this in immense pain for 21 hours until I got to 3cm and they agreed to an epidural, and within 2 hours I had given birth.

When I got to the antenatal ward I asked for gas and air, and was told “you’re not in labour, you’ll get no pain relief here. I’ll run you a bath”. I explained what happened in my previous labour, and they just repeated again that I wasn’t in established labour as only 2cm. Now at this stage I was squealing the ward down in pain, begging for pain relief and was given 2 paracetamol. The midwives were visibly rolling their eyes at me and telling me to calm down. Every contraction was triggering another panic attack (I’d never experienced a panic attack until this day) and it got to the stage that I was pushing. I knew something wasn’t right but no one would listen. At 4pm I cried and begged for an epidural, so they examined me and said ok you’re 3cm now, we’ll see if delivery will accept you.

I arrived to delivery suite at 4.32pm and immediately requested an epidural. They hooked me up to foetal heart monitor and examined me and I was 9cm, so too late for epidural. Next thing, they hit the crash button and a consultant came running in. She explained to me that baby was extremely distressed and needed delivered, so she was going to manually remove the remaining cervix as I pushed. I was in agony. This didn’t work, so she started getting visibly distressed herself, calling out that theatre needed cleared out as this baby needed to be delivered. I consented to a c-section and just as we were about to go, my waters broke and she tried again and DD2 was delivered. After she had to be resuscitated but has made a fantastic recovery and we’re both doing great.

The consultant came back later that evening and explained that she came from an EMCS to me as my baby’s HR was at 60bpm for 8mins when it should be between 110-160 during labour. She explained that guidelines state that if foetal HR is lowered for more than 9mins it can be fatal, which is why it was essential that my baby was delivered ASAP. I am forever grateful to the midwives and doctors that helped deliver DD and save her life.

But I am so annoyed at the midwives at admissions and on antenatal ward who did not listen one bit to me, rolled their eyes, and refused me pain relief when I was so clearly distressed and telling them that I was in labour.

I have discussed this with my community midwife, who has suggested I request to talk to someone regarding my care and to get access to my green notes. But I don’t know what I would say. I have no grievance as DD and I are perfectly fine. But I just wish someone listened to me.

I guess I am asking WWYD? Would you request to speak to someone in the hospital? Or would you be thankful all worked out ok and take time to reflect yourself?

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StyleOfTheTimes · 08/07/2019 07:22

I could of wrote this op. I actually went to pals and made a complaint. Not to get anyone into trouble or to get them fired but to ensure that their behaviour wouldn’t be repeated to anyone else and no one else would have the birth of their child overshadowed by a negative experience of care. Also I wanted them to acknowledge it happened and own up that it wasn’t the standard of care I should of received. I’m currently having counselling to help deal with the anxiety I’ve been left with and have also been diagnosed as having ptsd surrounding the labour and delivery of my daughter. I hope you start to feel better soon and don’t be afraid to ask for help if you feel you aren’t getting over the experience. Also I laboured back to back so I can understand the amount of sheer pain you felt.

Doriana · 08/07/2019 07:25

Do complain OP. You and your baby were lucky, it could have been so much worse. The midwives need some serious retraining and you should expect at the least an apology.

Do not agree to sign anything saying you are satisfied at any stage. I see that as a sensible precaution. You do not. not yet know the long term effects on you and your DD. Leave the door open for a legal claim just in case.

SweetMelodies · 08/07/2019 10:59

I also wish it was seen as unacceptable to treat labouring women in certain ways.

When reflecting on my birth experience it occurred to me that it would never be deemed acceptable for me to treat customers the same way in my own job.. I would never talk about a customer in 3rd person whilst they were stood there, turn to a colleague and make a little joke at the customers expense whilst they could hear, roll my eyes or snap at one... I think the same goes for all kinds of jobs. So why is it commonplace for labouring and birthing women?

Quartz2208 · 08/07/2019 11:27

@LHG123

Despite knowing I was in labor the midwife in charge refused to accept this. It felt like a sick joke and messed with my head. If I was in so much pain but not in labor what was happening to me!

Yes definitely the pain was so bad I actually thought if it wasnt labour I was dying the pain was so bad

The problem I guess is the balance of overall service vs individual needs is that more than any other thing labour is so unique no two births are the same which means listening to the person who is in labour and recognising that she knows what she is talking about

Littlemissdaredevil · 08/07/2019 12:14

Induced and strong and regular contractions started before I even came off the monitor. 3hours later I was 10cm and pushing! Midwives refused to believe I was in labour or examine me or hook me up to the monitor! DD was back to back and I told the midwife I was in so much pain I thought I was dying but still wouldn’t believe I was in labour, still didn’t carry out any monitoring, and wouldn’t give me any pain relief.

DD was born healthy but I shudder to think what would have happened if she became distressed. as no one would have know (due to zero checking of baby’s heartbeat.

I had a birth debrief and applied to see my notes.

11 months after birth I complained and my compliant was upheld. I think it important to complain even if you DD is healthily. As so many women complained they now have more staff.

Spanglyprincess1 · 08/07/2019 13:23

It's sad. I wasn't seen for ages but when they did the staff were incredible as the baby was in distress and I needed help.
It's frightening what could have happened otherwise
Please do complain, not for compensation but so staff can learn and change to treat other patients better

BatShite · 08/07/2019 14:28

I genuinely do not understand why some people go into midwifery when they seem to have absolutely zero empathy with a woman who is in severe pain during labour. A fair few of my friends have also had midwives who seemed uninterested, or just plain horrid, like telling the woman to shut up and stop exagerrating, that the pains in their head, or whatever. One of mine was eyerolly and did tell me at one point I was exagerating and to stop causing drama! Luckily for me, there was a shift change very soon after this woman started 'looking after' me so I didn't have to put up with it for long, and the ones who took over were lovely and I couldn't fault them one bit. Seems an odd profession to chose if you do not actually care about the women involved and their labours really.

Mammajay · 08/07/2019 20:16

I was in a lot of pain. When I was wired up and thank god had an epidural, a group of students came in and the teacher told them I was having double contractions which I assume was why I had been in so much pain.

tierraJ · 08/07/2019 20:49

Please contact PALS & also have some kind of counselling as mentioned by PPs.

I work as an HCA in a hospital ward where we deal with patients in post operative pain & the nurses on my ward would never ever leave or be allowed to leave the patients without strong pain relief & the emotional support they need.

I was born 42 years ago during what was for my poor mum a very traumatic birth, she was treated very badly & im shocked to hear that some midwives still behave so badly.
(I don't have DC myself & friends have discussed their traumatic births to a degree but not the actual behaviour of midwives).

It's horrifying to hear OP & others describing some HCPs as being so uncaring & nasty - with those attitudes to patients they need reporting & calling out on their actions. Disgusting.

Glad you have a healthy baby OP but you & others on this thread should not have had to go through that trauma.

bellabasset · 08/07/2019 21:09

I am glad your dd arrived safely in the end and she is doing well. I agree you should complain about your experience and get an explanation as to why you weren't listened to at the time.

Daisychainsandglitter · 08/07/2019 21:20

I had a very similar experience with DD1. The midwives a few hours before she was born forced me to lie on the bed refused all pain relief which I promptly threw up and sent me home in agony where I had her on my own in my bathroom. I'm still annoyed about how I was treated with utter contempt that night to this day.
It took me a long time to come to terms with so I can understand how you must feel. I hope you and your baby are ok now Thanks

Actionhasmagic · 08/07/2019 21:36

Sorry this happened to you. Please report it so it doesn’t happen to another mum. Congrats on your baby x

SolsticeBabyMaybe · 08/07/2019 22:59

I'd write a complaint, because although thankfully this all turned out okay for you and dd in the end, it sounds very risky and the next woman in this situation could have a much worse outcome after not being listened to properly.

26mcjrfm · 10/07/2019 22:24

So much love to you all and thank you for sharing your stories, which I can imagine was difficult to do. You have all given me so much strength and reassurance that my feelings are true and justified, and hope that I won’t be laughed at or belittled again. I don’t want to kick up a fuss, but I do want the failings brought to light in order to help other women who come through their doors with abnormal labours, and I want them to be listened to. Thank you all so much!

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