To be embarrassed to be British?

[ReasonablyIntelligent]

I've just seen on the news that the 29 Brexit Party MEPs all turned their backs (quite literally) during the European anthem in yesterday's opening session to the European Parliament.

Regardless of Pro-Brexit / Anti-Brexit debates, this is deeply deeply inappropriate, insanely undiplomatic and will have done nothing other than make the UK look ridiculous, childish and plain rude.

I'm ashamed to be represented by these people and the way things are going, ashamed to be a part of a country that is behaving like this.
Everyone else in Europe must think we are dirt.

I am ashamed to be British in so so so so many ways. Bring on Scottish independence, and anyone from the rest of the UK who rejects the ‘make Britain great again’ type ideology should come up and forge a new path and politics with us.

Here is what I've suspected all along; the very nature of what it is to be British is at stake:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-nigel-farage-uk-scotland-wales-northern-ireland-union-a8988146.html

No, it doesn't make me ashamed to be British. I agree that it was inappropriate (as, I suspect, would most people) but I'm never going to be ashamed of my nationality and heritage because of a few bickering politicians.

I’m also feeling embarrassed. This week in particular with the antics in Strasbourg. How cloth-eared do you have to be to as a British MEP criticise the Belgians for their empire?

We may well still have had similar problems but not the extent that there is now
Who is the ‘we’ you’re talking about here then? Are you or your partner a subcontractor who has been directly affected by this?
People are very quick to sit and say, it might have happened, it might have not happened.
You can afford to be blasé when it doesn’t directly affect your life and your livelihood.

High levels of immigration adversely affects those in manual jobs. Every. Single. Time.
It’s been proven. Again and again, but people see that as an acceptable, because immigration is good for society as a whole.
Ie them.

I'm here in part because my Mum was an immigrant privilege not this country to do work British people didn't want to do - nursing in the new NHS in the 1950s.

High levels of immigration adversely affects those in manual jobs. Every. Single. Time.It’s been proven. Again and again, but people see that as an acceptable, because immigration is good for society as a whole

At no point have i said that its acceptable or that it doesn’t affect those in manual jobs

The shop i work in is closing down in the next two weeks...everyone working there is being made redundant

But i will bow out as i am not a sub contractor

Oh one last thing

I meant we as a country

The country has been affected by immigration

No one is saying that you need to bow out because you’re not a sub contractor, but it’s really frustrating reading here people keep coming on and waxing lyrical that peoples problems are nothing to do with the EU, and it’s all the governments fault, when it’s demonstrably untrue.
I’m not meaning to particularly go at you, but it’s so frustrating when people preach to you about situations that don’t affect them, and then talk in general terms about society, when you’re talking about specific industries that directly affect you.

Bellinisurge - Not sure what point you're trying to make. No one here is saying that immigration is a bad thing, no one is saying that there shouldn't be any immigrants in the country, but you cannot have an open door policy without it having a detrimental effect in certain industries which is what happened in the Construction industry.

It is a total fallacy to pretend that unskilled immigration and cod asylum seekers are anything but a drain on the resources of the UK.

Anyone who things it's great for the UK is completely misguided.

Immigrants pay in more than they take out. The Treasury makes a profit from them. HTH.

I find @PreseaCombatir 's posts very informative. I am not really invested in the Brexit debate as I'm a foreigner so it's not my place, but your posts are the most eloquent pro-Brexit ones I've read.

OP and others: don't feel ashamed. Yes, it was childish, and a bit rude to the musicians. But I highly doubt people around Europe, or even the world, are going to point at the whole of the UK and judge. Most won't even know. Though I understand why you feel this way: I'm half Norwegian and I'm not exactly proud of some practices tolerated and subsidised in my home country...

"Would you give over, people are people"

Read my post again It clearly states that HA tenants have had problems with many tradesmen NO MATTER THE NATIONALITY.

in fact feel free to check my entire posting history while you are at it @EmeraldShamrock So there was no need to flash the woke credentials when we are on the same page.

News Flash HA tenants are people too. And the ones living in Grenfell Tower were a mixed community. In fact some of the tradesmen living in HA homes ARE the people you AND i standing up for.

There are problems in this field THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH NATIONALITY

One HA got rid of some contractors under C33 due to safety concerns ..........NOW they have taken them back again by employing a co. who uses these same engineers as SUB contractors.

You took my comment completely out of context HA tenants are worried about ANY unqualified trades people in their home because a lot of housing associations cut corners.

Oh and i woudnt have been born if my mum had stayed in Italy.

I'm embarrassed that Anne Widdecombe's over-excited squawking (along with Nigel's pompous braying) is being presented as "Best of British spirit".

Any Europeans feeling misty eyed at our departure would have started to see the positive side immediately after witnessing that.

Maybe they're trying actively to put off Europeans from having us among them. I picture them huddled up like a bunch of brats for single-celled brainstorms on what stunt or abominable insult they might come up with next...

They hang upside down from the rafters.

Interesting item on Channel 4 news.

About Polish people who were trafikked and living in squalor over here and put to work in farms and factories.

Theyve busted the gang but what of the farms and factories using them as labour Surely they must have been suspicious Or would they turn a blind eye or ignore their instincts for cheap labour.

I think they probably turned a blind eye, especially if they were being paid less than the minimum wage.

it does go to show though that the claims of some MNers who always come out with how its tax credits that cause low wages and if tax credits were abolished/stopped would mean employers would HAVE to pay a decent wage are wrong Because the situation ive posted on here proves that some employers will still pay the least they can.

Absolutely shocking the way these EU migrants were treated, they were basically slaves.
Hopefully, once we’re out of the EU this sort of thing will end.

Both parties were childish, but the Brexit party are the real hypocrites. Giving up their EU salaries, are they? Nope, thought not.

The teeshirts were FAR more inappropriate in my opinion.

I voted Remain and i stand by that. I dont see how the behaviour of exploitative employers is the fault of the EU