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Would I be completely wrong to do this- buying a dissertation

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NotNowNinja · 24/06/2019 13:39

Finishing my masters I’ve wrote 6000 words which my supervisor has basically told me to re-write.
I just want this to be over but I’m working ridiculous hours atm, recently suffered miscarriage, not sleeping due to ongoing ptsd and dh is undergoing a big operation in next month so I’m struggling with focus and time.
I know it’s morally wrong and I probably would feel guilty but I need to lighten my plate at the minute feel so overwhelmed- I had a panic arrack at work the other day thinking about everything.
Deferring is not an option sadly :(

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DrPeppersPhD · 24/06/2019 14:54

I'm currently in university too, and I don't blame you at all for considering it, I have too, but you would be very wrong to actually go through with it.
First thing I want you to do is take a step back and a deep breath. You're half way there, and I think a rewrite is not as scary as it seems to you right now. Email your tutor for more information as to what you need to improve. Also inform them of your situation (miscarriage, your DH's operation, etc) I think all of these seperately would qualify you for an extension, so ask for their procedure on that. Then close your laptop, forget about your dissertation for a couple of days, don't look at it, don't think about it. Spend that time catching up on sleep, relaxing as best you can. When you come back you'll be in a clearer mind. Then you can start going back in and editing the dissertation.

CollaterlyS1sters · 24/06/2019 14:56

You're not seriously asking if it would be wrong or not, are you?

What you are trying to find out is how not to get caught.

Totally immoral, totally unfair on all of the students who actually do their own work, & you will spend the rest of your life knowing that you don't really have that qualification.

How will you feel when you graduate? Proud?

ZazuMoon · 24/06/2019 14:56

You would be caught. It is very obvious to tutors/dissertation supervisors, particularly when you've submitted a draft. There are also lots of plagiarism detector software packages. The paid-for dissertations have a 'feel' and format about them which is quickly apparent to supervisors.

DrowsyDragon · 24/06/2019 14:57

University subject librarian and holder of two masters. Unless you stay in academia and extremely competitive fields of academia nobody will care what grade you got with your masters. Don’t buy this. You will probably get caught and they often can’t actually supply good enough work as well which is another reason you will get caught. Or it won’t read like you. Go to students services, explain everything except wanting to cheat and then ask for help if they can’t defer do your best and hand what you have. Better to get a low grade than to lose everything.

Millie2018 · 24/06/2019 14:58

It’s one of those decisions you’ll regret forever if you do.
Carve out some time to re-write and hope for the best.

Rezie · 24/06/2019 14:59

I can't believe I'm writing to defend essay mills. But you get what you pay for. There are "reputable" ones that are really expensive and will work hard to make it look like your work. Then there are cheap ones that recycle essays. My classmate was telling about a company in the USA that he is using that costs a lot but they work together to write the essay. It was a very disturbing conversation to have with my overly honest spirit.

As for the tutor. My thesis supervisor was a lecturer that didn't teach a thing to me during my degree. He was a part time lecturer in the university at a different subject and we had 3 meetings. That was the extend he know about me and my writing. I'm sure they know when people cheat, but if Turnitin doesn't catch it then I'm sure they will let people off the hook.

Whatdoyouknowwhenyouknownowt · 24/06/2019 14:59

I didn't finish a masters.

It's not the end of the world and I can live with myself...

TheCatThatDanced · 24/06/2019 14:59

It's wrong - speak to your supervisor.

Supergirlthesecond · 24/06/2019 14:59

I feel so strongly about this. You are asking if you can cheat because of your recent experiences but I am 100% sure that if your university knew you had had a miscarriage they would do everything to accommodate you. Don’t make the efforts other people have made to keep this space open and flexible to protect women who experience these things. You need head space, I think, and once you have had it you just need to get something handed in. I am sorry to be harsh but it is cheating and fraud and you would be basing your future on a lie and become part of the erosion of trust in our systems.

Supergirlthesecond · 24/06/2019 15:03

Should have said,

Don’t make the efforts other people have made to keep this space open and flexible, to protect women who experience these things, invalid.

pisspawpatrol · 24/06/2019 15:04

Speak to your tutors and course leader, you have options other than cheating.

Buying a dissertation won't help with the issues you're already going through, if anything it will make them worse because you'll feel guilty and be worrying about being caught. Talking to your tutors is the only way forward.

Mrsmadevans · 24/06/2019 15:04

You'll be found out m'dear, just do exactly what the tutor tells you to do and you should be fine, Good Luck !

Rezie · 24/06/2019 15:08

Some do, and will, conduct viva (oral) examinations in the style of a PhD, to check the student's knowledge

That's fantastic. When I did my bachelor's we had to give 20min oral presentation on the subject and a q&a with a group of lecturers. On top of this our supervisor gave us a topic relations to our thesis and we had to write a 1000 words in classroom to answer this question. I really wish they would do it in every school.

I do believe in my masters course it's possible to get away with it. I hope people wouldn't. Of course it might not be the case in every school. My advise was to ask for extension or do it next semester and not cheat. I'm strongly against it.

FriarTuck · 24/06/2019 15:08

If you can’t do the work, you don’t deserve the degree. It really is that simple.
This ^^.
You have plenty of time left, and you can ask for an extension or to defer if you really feel you can't meet the deadline.

Chartreuser · 24/06/2019 15:11

Please don't. I work in a uni and you will so very caught, and as it's such a serious offence likely kicked out so ask that study will be watered. There after many different ways and means to check for this, any uni with its salt will employ multiple means to check.

Worth asking for exceptional extension in my opinion

mumwon · 24/06/2019 15:15

OK you have had a hard time but what your suggesting is wrong especially when so many other students have gone through equally tough times & put their heart & soul into their work - if you cant finish the work go back to your tutor (or get a letter from your doctor) and tell them you need extra time - you get no support from me because I know how damn hard it is to divide your time or give up because of family commitments (serious illnesses & caring responsibility)

GrimDamnFanjo · 24/06/2019 15:19

Firstly speak to your tutor and get some support and guidance.
Then break it down into number of words needed a day stopping about 3-4 weeks before deadline.
If I've calculated right then this could've as little as 100-200 words a day.
Doing this you will know you will hit the word count with time to edit.
I did this and wrote mine in 10 days over Xmas.
Breaking I'd down will take the pressure off - get weekly/monthly meetings in the diary with your tutor to get as much support as possible.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 24/06/2019 15:23

When you are stressed it's hard to think straight. Copying or cheating is a bad idea - chances are you will get caught and your hard work wasted.

All UK universities have ways to help students in your situation. The trouble is that every university does it differently. So we can't tell you exactly how it works. But there will be a mitigating/ extenuating/ special circumstances process to help out in tricky situations like yours.

Do you have a personal tutor, academic mentor, director of studies or whoever, separate from the supervisor who is demanding this assignment? If so then contact them and go and talk to them. Explain the situation. They can point you at the process and tell you what options you have - some of which you may not know about. In fact your supervisor should really be able to do this as well but sometimes it's easier to discuss it with someone else. If there isn't any academic with that role, or if you don't want to talk to an academic, then talk to student support/welfare/counselling/advice, either your central university service, or your local students' union service, depending who is around over the summer. Both will be able to help, discuss the options and advise you.

Good luck and take care of yourself Flowers

lazylinguist · 24/06/2019 15:36

I'm sorry you are having a hard time, but if you can't do the work, you shouldn't get the degree. Cheating is wrong, whether you get caught or not. Get all the help you can for your situation, but don't cheat.

barbaramillicentr · 24/06/2019 15:42

Unless you're paying a person to write it for you and not an essay mill company, I wouldn't do it. If you were say, paying me and I would write it for you, then yes. Less chance of getting caught as it wouldn't be something I personally would churn out and sell in large volumes.

Dec2019mumtobe · 24/06/2019 15:45

Years ago, I worked for a company that employed writers and sold essays and dissertations. Not as a writer, in the office. (Long story, I didn't know that's actually what the company did when I got the job!)

The trouble is there are sooooo many foreign spam and scam companies out there that rip off students by trying to look like the main uk companies. So I'd be very wary about spending hundreds - potentially thousands - on a dissertation and not receiving anything, or receiving a piss poor piece of crap back. If it's a spam or scam company, you're screwed. We saw that many people who'd been ripped off previously. (Especially because the scammers would make their sites seem like part of the company I worked for's uk group).

The other thing is, fast forward a few years and i know somebody who works as a lecturer. They can spot when it's not their own student's work a mile off. Turnitin etc not needed.

So, why take the risk of spending all that money for it to be a waste? Then, it will undermine the rest of the work you've already done for your degree if you get taken to a plagiarism forum and given a zero mark. It'll drag your average right down and you'll walk away with a crap mark overall. Or thrown off the course with no mark!

I wouldn't risk it. Best thing to do is email what you've said above (minus the bit about buying a dissertation) to your supervisor and ask for an extension. Listen to his/her feedback and do the rewrite.

It seems impossible now, but I promise it can be done. You're stressed and need a break. Your university will grant you a little break!

AquaPris · 24/06/2019 15:57

You would forever know that you didn't actually earn your degree.

You need to break it into small manageable goals with a timeframe. I managed an A grade 5,000 word essay in 24 hours once - nearly threw up afterwards but got it done.

Alternatively ignore the tutor and just amend it a bit and continue towards a pass. I don't put my MA grade down on my CV - just that I have one as many are pass/fail.

Although now I've just read that it's due September ffs. Take a week off, breathe and chill out, talk to your teacher. Then get back on with it in July... you have 2 months that's ages

XXcstatic · 24/06/2019 16:16

You would forever know that you didn't actually earn your degree

This. Plus you seem to be telling yourself that you somehow deserve to cheat because of your tough personal circumstances. That's bullshit. Huge numbers of students go through all sorts of problems, from death of a parent to diagnosis of a life-limiting illness. They don't use it as a mandate to cheat.

caz114 · 24/06/2019 16:30

Why is delaying not the answer?

mumofamenagerie · 24/06/2019 16:39

Unless you're looking for a job in academia, MA 'classification' is basically meaningless. I technically got a merit on mine but I just put MA on my CV. I have one, that's all that matters. If you get a distinction/win a prize you might want to note that, but otherwise an MA is an MA is an MA to employers. I'm doing a PhD now and they have no classifications - again, nobody else cares if you have no corrections, minor corrections or major corrections once you've got it! (I mean I would obviously be unspeakably delighted if I passed with no corrections, but it's never going to happen and nobody else would be bothered!)

Get an extension and do your best. You have very clearly got extenuating circumstances! Don't pay for a dissertation--moral issues aside, it will be a) crap and b) obvious to your university, which routinely will use plagiarism detection software.

Good luck Flowers