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Would I be completely wrong to do this- buying a dissertation

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NotNowNinja · 24/06/2019 13:39

Finishing my masters I’ve wrote 6000 words which my supervisor has basically told me to re-write.
I just want this to be over but I’m working ridiculous hours atm, recently suffered miscarriage, not sleeping due to ongoing ptsd and dh is undergoing a big operation in next month so I’m struggling with focus and time.
I know it’s morally wrong and I probably would feel guilty but I need to lighten my plate at the minute feel so overwhelmed- I had a panic arrack at work the other day thinking about everything.
Deferring is not an option sadly :(

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FizzyGreenWater · 24/06/2019 14:35

Don't be a fool. You're very likely to be caught.

Ask for an extension on health grounds?

Bluerussian · 24/06/2019 14:37

People often do such things, I'm not getting into the morality of it. If you do it, the dissertation you buy must be carefully read (you may find it says what you would have said anyway), edited, even altered, so it looks like yours.

Good luck.

AlwaysCheddar · 24/06/2019 14:38

This would hang over you for the rest of your life .... don’t do it!

Orchidfeed · 24/06/2019 14:41

It would be very wrong and unfair on your classmates who do their own work if you passed something off as your own work - even in the unlikely event you got away with it. If they are suspicious it is not your work they could invite you to a viva to talk about it (& that is stressful enough when it is your own work!)

What if you get a job and they assume that level of knowledge of the subject and you don’t have it and can’t research/write to the level assumed?

If you cannot get mits/extenuating circs/an extension you should be able to temporarily withdraw if necessary

BUT most of my MA students have hardly written anything yet so you are ahead of the game! 😊 And have enough time to complete it. Work with your tutor - that has got to be worth at least 10 marks in itself as they know what a dissertation should be like and are trying to get you there. Write a detailed draft contents page and work through that in bite-sided chunks. You can do it 😊

Coronapop · 24/06/2019 14:41

What is the deadline and what is the subject?

Rezie · 24/06/2019 14:41

I doubt you'd get caught. The essay mills write original work so it won't be detected. You'd supervisor will probably know but they can't prove it. Some of my classmates at MSc course last year couldn't form a sentence in English and their thesis works were absolutely fantastic.

That being said, dont do it. Ask for extension. Take a semester off or just return 12k words of absolute shit. If it's on topic and in the format that the university requires, you will get a pass. You'll feel so much better.

Janus · 24/06/2019 14:43

If your partners op is next month can you take a week off work and delegate everything to him for the week and get a lot of it done?? Summer holidays are going to be hard with children off anyway so sounds like the next month is the golden time. Even if he has to take time off too I think it’s fair if you have to look after him next month?

Readytogogogo · 24/06/2019 14:44

I would too. Or get yourself some modafinil online, it'll get you through the dissertation.

Dreadful advice of the day!

Blubluboo · 24/06/2019 14:44

Please ask for an extension. It will come out.
If I was hiring for a job and was torn between two candidates and went for you over the other, if I then found out you'd not even earnt your degree I'd be majorly pissed off and you wouldn't have a job anymore. It's morally wrong.

CommeDesPoissons · 24/06/2019 14:45

I'm so sorry you're having a hard time, but please don't do this. You would probably be caught by the plagiarism detection software, but if you weren't and you went on to use this qualification on your CV, you could (depending on your field) face fraud charges. Please, please don't. If you can't get an extension or defer (and it sounds like you have very good grounds), pick it up later when circumstances improve.

DistanceCall · 24/06/2019 14:45

Wrong and you'll get caught. And even if you didn't, you'd know you faked it for the rest of your life.

Halloumimuffin · 24/06/2019 14:45

Another one here saying you can do it! I did my 76,000 word PhD thesis in 3 months while working full time. My strategy would probably horrify my old supervisor:

  • Wrote all the contents and titles out first. Anything to get something done without requiring brain power
  • Writing all the easy bits first even if not in order. Tick stuff off and you'll feel more positive
  • Enlist your tutors help as much as possible with polishing. Ask for detailed feedback
-Send a draft off asap even if it's unpolished. You'll always have it to fall back on if you can't manage to perfect it.
M3lon · 24/06/2019 14:46

Yep - totally ask for an extension. I'm also currently involved in processes to remove students for cheating in this way. You really really don't want to go down that road.

MindyStClaire · 24/06/2019 14:46

Absolutely don't do it, you will get caught (as others have said, universities are becoming more and more aware of this and really cracking down). Plus, it's hugely dishonest, but you know that.

I'd advise the following in order, depending on your institution:

  • Look into an extension. You would definitely get one in my uni with a doctor's letter.
  • Ask what happens if you fail. Here, you would be allowed resubmit and have your dissertation capped at 50.
  • Consider exit routes - cert or diploma. Does the option to take these routes change if you do or don't submit your dissertation?

Really, the extension is the best option here and doesn't rule out the exit route later.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 24/06/2019 14:46

I'm sorry to learn of your difficulties OP - that's what makes me so disgusted with these morally-bankrupt paper-mill services. They exploit the situations of students who are already vulnerable.

But I warn you here and now, if you try this approach you'll likely be caught. Plagiarism detection software is unlikely to flag up a 'paper-milled' essay, and a good many providers of this morally-dubious service will reassure you that the essay is a one-off and written for you only. BUT ...

Don't be lulled into a false sense of security by this. A dissertation supervisor will pick up the fact that it's not your work easily, and instantly. After three years on a course they know you, they know your work, and they've seen how the work has progressed during supervision meetings, if you've been attending. And they can easily compare your previous work to see if its compatible with your own grade profile and style of expression. Lecturers are practised at this.

The question, of course, is whether the university can prove it. But I once detected a paper-milled essay and before progressing to an Unfair Means panel, the student was called in for a viva. By the second question it was so obvious it wasn't the student's work that the situation was painfully embarrassing. The dissertation was failed, and because it was worth 60 credits of the final-year total, it dragged the overall degree result down to a Class 3.

There is always a better solution than cheating, OP.

nelsonmuntzslingshot · 24/06/2019 14:46

DO NOT DO THIS! The likelihood of you being caught is high. Go to your Uni’s Student Support office and ask for an extension for extenuating circumstances. They will be very sympathetic.

Halloumimuffin · 24/06/2019 14:47

You'd supervisor will probably know but they can't prove it. Some of my classmates at MSc course last year couldn't form a sentence in English and their thesis works were absolutely fantastic.

They pretty much can prove it, software these days can tell you in two essays aren't written by the same person based on writing style. The reason international students get away with it is because they pay such high fees.

M3lon · 24/06/2019 14:47

halloumi as a supervisor of PhD students that's almost word for word what I tell them to do!

Keeping confidence up is the key to success with such projects!

M3lon · 24/06/2019 14:48

You could even apply for a suspension of your studies until such time as you can finish the work.....

FatherBuzzCagney · 24/06/2019 14:48

The essay mills write original work so it won't be detected.

Actually, a lot of them don't, they recycle text from other sources. It's always an interesting moment when a student comes to discuss the fact that "their" essay or dissertation has had 10 or 15 marks deducted for minor plagiarism because the actaully essay writer has cut corners and you can see them thinking "but I paid good money for this" - but, of course, they can't say anything.

caughtinanet · 24/06/2019 14:48

Why can't you get an extension?

Birdie6 · 24/06/2019 14:49

Surely if your supervisor told you to rewrite, and then you show up with a completely different essay, they'd figure it out pretty quickly ?

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 24/06/2019 14:50

You'd supervisor will probably know but they can't prove it

Yes they can, and I speak from experience as a university lecturer. Some do, and will, conduct viva (oral) examinations in the style of a PhD, to check the student's knowledge. It will quickly become apparent if the work is not the student's own, resulting in additional humiliation for them and stronger sanctions if their intention has evidently been to deceive and hope they get away with it.

It's really not helpful to give people advice like this.

eggsandwich · 24/06/2019 14:51

No don’t do it, you would especially be getting credit for something that isn’t your work, could you really live with that?

BlueJava · 24/06/2019 14:52

Better to scrape a pass than be a cheat - at least it'll be your own work.