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Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

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Totur · 21/06/2019 19:55

Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

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woman19 · 22/06/2019 19:24

'will go up' that should have read. (they wish) Wink

LakieLady · 22/06/2019 20:02

The Foreign Office staff (a couple of whom I know) absolutely loathed Boris. Hunt is seen as a significant improvement.

A friend who's in HMRC was talking to some FO people at a First Division Association event. They reckoned if Boris had stayed at the FO, we'd be lucky to last 5 years before he talked us into a war with someone.

They said that it was impossible to explain anything to him - he really didn't want be briefed, to understand the trickiness of some of our international relationships, or issues that require some delicacy. The phrase "lazy, ignorant cunt" was used, and ever since I heard this, that's all I can think of when I see him.

He scares me. He's like a better educated Trump.

LJdorothy · 22/06/2019 20:06

A woman was screaming and there were crashing, banging noises, which could be heard from the street. If the neighbours (and more than one called) hadn't called the police, they'd have been seriously negligent, because something terrible could have been happening in that house. Their political leanings are completely irrelevant.

shesgrownhorns · 22/06/2019 20:44

so more than one neighbour called?

LakieLady · 22/06/2019 20:48

Interesting you mention Ed Milliband. I remember a few tories seriously trying to make the fact he wasnt married to his long term partner an issue. Now they're happy to have this in Downing Street.....

When he's in Downing Street, the police won't have far to go if it kicks off again.

MoaMartinson · 22/06/2019 20:49

I am not okay with this.

Dongdingdong · 22/06/2019 23:24

I wonder why the Guardian hasn’t made an audio recording of the tape on their website. Why aren’t we allowed to hear it?

Woody68 · 22/06/2019 23:37

Either doesn't exist, wasn't them or massively over exaggerated

jennymanara · 22/06/2019 23:38

Or there are legal reasons

Bourdic · 22/06/2019 23:40

Dong I think it’s good they haven’t - we know much that’s on it and I don’t see why listening to it would be other than prurient. However I’m glad a recording was made and is with the Guardian otherwise that serial liar aka our next PM would be denying everything and probably suing the neighbours.

Bourdic · 22/06/2019 23:42

The idea that the recording doesn’t exist is absolutely bloody ridiculous

HelenaDove · 22/06/2019 23:46

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/neighbour-who-called-police-over-boris-johnson-row-goes-public?CMP=share_btn_tw

The neighbour who contacted the police over a late-night altercation between Tory leadership favourite, Boris Johnson, and his partner, Carrie Symonds, has gone public with his side of the story.

Tom Penn, who has lived at the property in south London for just over a year, said he wanted to put the record straight on his reasons for recording the row and then dialling 999.

Penn, who heard the loud argument, said he only contacted the police as a last resort after knocking three times at the couple’s flat and was concerned over the “bizarre and fictitious allegations” put to him and his wife since news of the incident broke and dominated front pages.

It comes after the Guardian revealed that police were called to the flat Johnson shares with Symonds in the early hours of Friday morning after the neighbour heard a loud altercation involving screaming followed by slamming and banging. On a recording made by the neighbour, Symonds can be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”

In a statement released on Saturday night, Penn, 29, said: “In the early hours of Friday morning, I answered a phone call from a takeaway food delivery driver. At the same time, I heard what sounded like shouting coming from the street.

“I went downstairs, on the phone to the driver, and collected my food. On the way back into my flat, it became clear that the shouting was coming from a neighbour’s flat. It was loud enough and angry enough that I felt frightened and concerned for the welfare of those involved, so I went inside my own home, closed the door, and pressed record on the voice memos app on my phone.

“After a loud scream and banging, followed by silence, I ran upstairs, and with my wife agreed that we should check on our neighbours. I knocked three times at their front door, but there was no response. I went back upstairs into my flat, and we agreed that we should call the police.
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“The police arrived within five minutes. Our call was made anonymously, and no names were given to the police. They subsequently called back to thank us for reporting, and to let us know that nobody was harmed.

“To be clear, the recordings were of the noise within my own home. My sole concern up until this point was the welfare and safety of our neighbours. I hope that anybody would have done the same thing

“Once clear that no one was harmed, I contacted the Guardian, as I felt it was of important public interest. I believe it is reasonable for someone who is likely to become our next prime minister to be held accountable for all of their words, actions and behaviours.

“I, along with a lot of my neighbours all across London, voted to remain within the EU. That is the extent of my involvement in politics.

“The unpleasant things being said about myself and my partner, and some quite frankly bizarre and fictitious allegations, have been upsetting for not only us, but also for family, friends and fellow Camberwell neighbours, who are currently being harangued by the media. I would ask that you leave private citizens alone and focus instead on those who have chosen to run for power within the public eye.

“The attempts from some areas of the press to instead focus their stories on us, and in particular my wife, have been eye-opening, and very alarming. I would encourage anyone to record any instances where they feel concerned for another person’s safety.”

Scotland Yard said in a statement: “At 00.24 on Friday 21 June, police responded to a call from a local resident in [south London]. The caller was concerned for the welfare of a female neighbour

“Police attended and spoke to all occupants of the address, who were all safe and well. There were no offences or concerns apparent to the officers and there was no cause for police action.”

Johnson has refused to comment on the incident"

Sistersis · 22/06/2019 23:46

Nothing to see here. Won't stop people voting for him. Probably increase his popularity if anything.

The same way his voters are likely to blame a woman for rape if she's the victim, its the same way they'll blame the GF tarnishing saying she's trying to bring down a 'good man' move on. Nothing to see here.

Doubletrouble99 · 22/06/2019 23:49

I'm a leave, card carrying Conservative and there is no way I would ever vote for Boris and I really hope this incident makes more people think again. Unfortunately I'm not happy we only have Hunt to vote for and would really have preferred a leave candidate.
Here's hoping this stops Boris in his tracks.

TruthOnTrial · 22/06/2019 23:52

lazy, ignorant cunt

Well its certainly how he comes across. He doesnt care enough to keep people's names or concerns in mind.

Is he in league with trump the freshly accused molester with his stinky fingers everywhere in other womens pussys

Snoozysnoozy · 23/06/2019 08:22

If the tape proved Boris to be at fault.Then it would have been released by the press straight away.

LJdorothy · 23/06/2019 09:41

I can’t believe people are still minimising this. It doesn’t matter who started the ‘argument’. The fact, and it is a fact, is that there a woman was screaming ‘get off me’ and there were crashing noises, so loud the neighbours could hear and called the police because they thought a female resident was in danger. But, hey. Vote for him. I can’t stop you. I don’t even get a say.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/06/2019 10:13

LJ
The Daily Fail had two witnesses saying she was the one shouting and throwing things and he was trying to calm her down. The truth is that none of us know for certain what happened other than it was a furious row.
I didn’t think Boris was fit to be PM before this and this hasn’t improved my view of him.

LenoVentura · 23/06/2019 10:16

And now Carrie's ex boyfriend is out in the papers describing her and their relationship as passionate and tumultuous. She's toast. Boris will throw her under the bus to save himself.

Smokeonthewater · 23/06/2019 10:19

I bet he's having second thoughts about having dumped his second wife now.

justasking111 · 23/06/2019 10:32

Well they cannot find out anything about Hunts wife he wont release her full name. so Boris girlfriend will take all the flack.

Dongdingdong · 23/06/2019 10:36

The Daily Fail had two witnesses saying she was the one shouting and throwing things and he was trying to calm her down. The truth is that none of us know for certain what happened other than it was a furious row.

Witnesses - really? I didn’t think anyone saw anything. Do you have a link? (I did have a google but nothing came up).

Dongdingdong · 23/06/2019 10:37

Well they cannot find out anything about Hunts wife he wont release her full name.

I just googled “Jeremy Hunt’s wife” and her full maiden name immediately popped up Confused

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/06/2019 10:57

Dingdong

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7170867/Carrie-Symonds-scared-home-recorded-political-stich-neighbours.html

If you read the full article it has a mixture of reports which show different neighbours had different perceptions of what was going on.
So none of us can be absolutely sure.

Nursery worker Fatimah, who described 'glass being smashed' in the property, said: 'I have a four year old son and I was worried the noise would wake him up.

'He had a much calmer voice and he was just telling her to calm down, but she was still chucking things about.'

One neighbour told the Telegraph: 'I heard the row, it was pretty loud. I was quite worried to be honest, it was bad.

'I heard a lot of smashing - it sounded like plates or glasses - and I could hear her shouting. It was definitely her, I didn't hear him. There was a lot of shouting and swearing. It didn't last that long, maybe five minutes. It was unusual because it's very quiet around here. We don't usually here things like this.'

StarbucksSmarterSister · 23/06/2019 11:06

Or there are legal reasons

There are rumours he is trying for an injunction. He certainly has form for that Grin

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