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Man-handling climate change protestors

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Leafyhouse · 20/06/2019 23:17

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

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GeneticTest · 21/06/2019 19:25

All the people saying that 'there was security screening so he would know that she couldn't be armed' Well- there's security screening at Parliament And an armed man got in and killed a police officer. So just cos screening is there, doesn’t mean it catches everyone.

Don’t get me wrong- mark field totally overreacted, he assaulted her. He should be sacked.

Up thread people have referenced female MPs getting death threats. Male MPs get death threats constantly too. They sometimes get almost weekly updates from the police about their security. And that’s the non-famous ones. She had a small bag- that could have had a bottle of acid. That’s an effective weapon.

Security was a disaster at this event- this should never have happened.

mummmy2017 · 21/06/2019 19:25

Lol...well, i now know according to views on here I can turn up at a private event march around the room shouting and no one can touch me as it will be an assult....

Isatis · 21/06/2019 19:26

In America, as soon as this kicked off, the president would have been guarded, and rushed safely out of the place through a pre-planned exit. The protestors wouldn't have exited as easily as they got in

And yet the security people present managed to deal with this protest without any of that, and Hammond carried on and made his speech without running and hiding. How does that demonstrate lack of backbone? One reason for the way the protest was sorted out so easily, of course, is that security people in the UK know that it's not possible for randoms to walk into shops and buy guns.

In various other places - eg Russia, China, and North Korea, and many others, I dread to think. They just wouldn't do it there. They would be too frightened.

And you think we should feel inferior to Russia, China and North Korea as a result? I think you've just revealed more about yourself than you really intended.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 19:26

The UK still has some vestiges of civilisation. And that’s seen as a bad thing although it won’t stay that way if thugs like Field get away with this kind of attack.

IcedPurple · 21/06/2019 19:26

*Security at the door to get into Mansion House.

And I am only going on what was reported*

You should choose better sources then. There WAS security at the Mansion House, including airport style scanners.

It's amazing how people post repeatedly on this thread without bothering to inform themselves of the basic facts.

Isatis · 21/06/2019 19:27

Security at the door to get into Mansion House.

And I am only going on what was reported

Then you haven't been reading the reports properly, Oliversmumsarmy. Try again.

cinnamontoast · 21/06/2019 19:27

Ah, mummy2017, you're back. So - what was Janet Barker guilty of?

Guilty no matter how you try to dress it up, you said.

Isatis · 21/06/2019 19:28

Well- there's security screening at Parliament And an armed man got in and killed a police officer

When?

IcedPurple · 21/06/2019 19:28

@Alsohuman

A lot of these responses just confirm the impression I've had since this morning. Many of the people here simply do not think peaceful protest, other than maybe a table with a petition to be signed outside Tesco's, should be allowed. At least not if it's for 'lefty' or 'feminist' causes.

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/06/2019 19:29

Then you haven't been reading the reports properly, Oliversmumsarmy. Try again

Didn’t read it, reported on the news earlier today

AgileLass · 21/06/2019 19:29

Johnny Mercer has just been quoted on Channel 4 News as saying Field is a 'lovely guy'.

Johnny Mercer thinks soldiers who shot unarmed civilians in the back shouldn’t face any legal action, so par for the course really Hmm

mbosnz · 21/06/2019 19:30

Sorry, what I last posted most probably seemed utterly irrelevant. I posted it in the vein of 'there's something rotten in the state of Denmark'. . .

Gth1234 · 21/06/2019 19:30

Yes, he did. She was wearing a Greenpeace sash.

of course "bang head emoji"- no group of terrorists would disguise themselves with greenpeace sashes. That must be it.

Baader-Meinhof included a lot of nice cuddly women, didn't they? Left wing idealist students, I think. Not right wing racists. You've probably never hear of this little lot though, as it's about 40 years ago.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

IcedPurple · 21/06/2019 19:30

Lol...well, i now know according to views on here I can turn up at a private event march around the room shouting and no one can touch me as it will be an assult....

Firstly, who was 'shouting'?

Secondly, if you enter a premises unlawfully you certainly can be removed, just as the other protesters were. However, it needs to be done by a trained security officer, and done in a way proportionate to the relatively mild offence of trespassing. This clearly did not happen here.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 19:30

Blimey, so Boris is at it too. Bet all the Tory party faithful say she asked for it.

BlueJava · 21/06/2019 19:31

Not at all - she shouldn't have been there, she was rushing towards the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Gov of Bank of England and others, shouting... she was ejected. As she should have been.

IcedPurple · 21/06/2019 19:31

of course "bang head emoji"- no group of terrorists would disguise themselves with greenpeace sashes.

Has this actually happened, or is it yet another hypothetical product of some of the more feverish imaginations here?

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/06/2019 19:31

Isatis

22nd March 2017

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 19:32

She wasn’t rushing. She walked.

BlamesFartsOnTheNeighbour · 21/06/2019 19:34

If this lady had grabbed a knife from a table

Next time I eat out and a waitress comes over to my table I'll make sure to grab her by the throat. Just in case she's planning to pick up a knife while she's there.

mbosnz · 21/06/2019 19:34

She was neither rushing, nor shouting. Let's not get hysterical here.

mbosnz · 21/06/2019 19:36

And an armed man got in and killed a police officer.

It was outside, was it not? In New Palace Yard? Before any screening protocol would have been enacted?

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 19:37

Yes, it was outside but never let the facts get in the way of a good prejudice.

Buster72 · 21/06/2019 19:37

However, it needs to be done by a trained security officer, and

No it does not, a security guard in the UK has no special power, anyone can remove a trespasser