Man-handling climate change protestors

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Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

mummy2017 shall we stop with the whataboutery? She didn't grab a knife. Are we to treat everyone - includlng peaceful protestors who have already announced themselves as such - as if they might grab a knife? Frankly, there are easier ways to kill someone than with a table knife.

But basically, this is about what kind of society we want to Iive in. Peaceful protest is a democratic right; physical assault is not and should never be.

YANBU. I was appalled too. Gave me the shivers about how he treats his wife in private if he's prepared to do that to a woman in public.

What if she had a gun? or a knife? He didnt know who,or what she was.

The reasons why it was exceedingly unlikely that she was armed have been explained many times already. I'm not going to repeat them for your benefit.

Another bloody feminist

I thought she was an environmental activist, but thanks for letting us know what your real prejudice is.

Imo climate change is the biggest threat this planet is facing so these stunts drawing attention to it( positive or negative) are good.

Yes she did have it coming to her

Why, Gth1234? She hadn't broken the law. And trespass is a civil matter. You seriously want peaceful protesters to be beaten up?

God help your children if they grow up with any sort of social conscience.

Another bloody feminist

Hanging's too good for 'em.

What damage could she do with a table knife for God’s sake? This is getting beyond ludicrous.

From my understanding there was no security.

Nonsense. Since when did prominent cabinet ministers go to public events without security?

Johnny Mercer has just been quoted on Channel 4 News as saying Field is a 'lovely guy'.

That's what abusers' friends always say.

I also can't establish whether the Chancellor gets official protection, but if he does, they weren't on the ball either

Clearly they were, as neither the Chancellor nor anyone else was attacked by any protester.

When you choose to enter a private dinner, with a high profile person and newspapers and TV present, then you have made a choose before you enter the room to disrupt the event, not one person in that room forced her to enter, force her to do as she did....
This was not an open event to the public, she knew .....in law she is guilty no matter how you try to dress it up.

How does anyone know she didn't have a hairpin in her hair that she could have used to stab the Chancellor?

She might have taken off her shoes and hit someone with them?

Or maybe taken out with of her earrings and taken Hammond's eye out?

Just to be clear, I'm taking the p**s. It shouldn't be neccessary to say so, but given how absurd this thread has become, it probably is.

Johnny Mercer’s just gone down in my estimation.

So if something which never happened had happened then we might say a "crisis" which never happened could have been 'everted'?

The trouble is they won't tell is what did get averted. But the July 7th bombs, and the London Bridge attacks,. and the Manchester bombings definitely didn't get averted - and after they didn't get averted, it turns out that they probably could have been averted.

Even if this shower didn't mean anything sinister, it's a good demonstration of what sinister people could do if they wanted, cause no-one was doing much to prevent it.

So don't criticise the guy who did stand up. More of them should have stood up with him, not just sat there like stuffed shirts. IMO

in law she is guilty no matter how you try to dress it up

Guilty of what, mummy2017?

Johnny Mercer has just been quoted on Channel 4 News as saying Field is a 'lovely guy'.

LOL, that's not apparently what most of the Tory party is saying. I imagine they're saying something along the lines of 'what a stupid sodding tosspot. . .we're only supposed to beat up women in private. . .'

Even if this shower didn't mean anything sinister, it's a good demonstration of what sinister people could do if they wanted, cause no-one was doing much to prevent it.

My head is spinning. It's hypothetical upon hypothetical.

So - as you seem to be admitting - no harm was intended by these activists. However, even though they did not intend to do harm, it's good for the person who did not intend doing harm to be manhandled because if someone else did intend to do harm, that would learn 'em.

FFS.

What if she had a gun? or a knife?

How could she have, given that she had come through security and you can see there is literally nowhere that she could conceal one?

He didnt know who,or what she was.

Yes, he did. She was wearing a Greenpeace sash.

What gives her the right to just hi jack the conference..Another bloody feminist

She's a climate change protester, you have no idea whether she's a feminist or not. And even if she was, would you care to explain what's so terrible about that and how it makes anyone deserving of physical assault?

When you choose to enter a private dinner, with a high profile person and newspapers and TV present, then you have made a choose before you enter the room to disrupt the event, not one person in that room forced her to enter, force her to do as she did.

Made a choose?

What exactly is the relevance of this? Who, if anyone, has suggested for one moment that she was exercising anything other than free will? None of that gives a man the right to attack her physically using force way beyond what is necessary to eject her.

We can do what the fuck we like as women but that also means being tested like an adult human being not a fragile fluffy wuffy girl who wouldn't hurt a fly.
This

Just an example,

In America, as soon as this kicked off, the president would have been guarded, and rushed safely out of the place through a pre-planned exit. The protestors wouldn't have exited as easily as they got in.

I doubt they would have done this in many European countries,

In various other places - eg Russia, China, and North Korea, and many others, I dread to think. They just wouldn't do it there. They would be too frightened.

They only do it here because the UK has no backbone.

Even if this shower didn't mean anything sinister, it's a good demonstration of what sinister people could do if they wanted, cause no-one was doing much to prevent it.

No, the security people peacefully ejected the others, without the need to attack them or grab them by the neck. And it's not a demonstration of what "sinister people" could do, because sinister people tend to carry weapons; these women got through initial security precisely because they weren't carrying anything of the sort.

Um, GTH, president wasn't there. Neither was the PM.

They do it here, because we have a robust system that still protects basic human rights, such as the right to peaceful protest, and because we don't have a police system that holds it's brains in its holster.

@Gth1234
When you cite China and NK as support for your argument, you've lost the plot. And America's not much better. Do you have any clue about the record for brutality 'enjoyed' by the American police, especially against those of the 'wrong' skin colour?

*Isatis

From my understanding there was no security.

Nonsense. Since when did prominent cabinet ministers go to public events without security*

Security at the door to get into Mansion House.

And I am only going on what was reported