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Man-handling climate change protestors

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Leafyhouse · 20/06/2019 23:17

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

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GirlsBlouse17 · 21/06/2019 14:17

Security obviously failed to stop the protesters getting in so I think he took reasonable action to stop her getting further as how was he supposed to know she wasn't armed.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:17

If your definition of assault isn't grabbing someone and pushing them I really can't help expand your knowledge

Hi Smile,

Assault is the unjustified use of force.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 21/06/2019 14:17

it was reasonable force NOT assault in my opinion

Would you feel comfortable with a man doing that to you, your daughters, your sisters, your mother, your gran? If not why not? Or are you going to go with the 'she deserved it' defense?

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 14:17

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PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 14:18

But this was not an unprovoked assult on an innocent bystander was it.....

So you're admitting it was assault. Some progress at least.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:21

Would you feel comfortable with a man doing that to you, your daughters, your sisters, your mother, your gran?
Not my gran, but yes to the others.

If not why not?
Dead, and if she wasn't it might have finished her off

Or are you going to go with the 'she deserved it' defense?

Pjsandbaileys · 21/06/2019 14:21

He will most probably have got himself in hot water, the lady wasn't being threatening shouty yes but not making threats,
She didn't come into physical contact with anyone as she walked,she didn't put up any resistance to being moved. Your actions have have to be reasonable and justified in the case they weren't. The idea that she may have been armed doesn't really wash in a court she was not wearing clothes you would expect for concealed weapons etc thought they were armed could be use that as a reason in any situation to take someone out would be chaos lol

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 14:21

What did she do to provoke it? She walked past him. Is that now provocation?

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:22

So you're admitting it was assault. Some progress at least.

I'm not!

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 14:22

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Oliversmumsarmy · 21/06/2019 14:23

Given she wasn’t supposed to be there then yes she was provoking a reaction

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 14:23

Even bloody Theresa May and the Tory chairman say it’s concerning and indefensible - what more do the idiots backing him up need?

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:24

I've kind of run out of things to say ...

TantricTwist · 21/06/2019 14:24

She shouldn't have been there.

She may well have been carrying a weapon.

What if she had attacked someone then you'd all be moaning about how no-one did anything and just sat there.

I think he was quite brave actually and acted in the moment to get rid of someone who shouldn't have been there. You can see in the video she pushes back on him so he had to use more force than he had anticipated to remove her.

He didn't assault her, he used neccessary force to remove her. She was pushig back at him and laughing smugly because she got exactly what she wanted from the situation.

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 14:25

Fiddlesticks my response was to mummmy2017 not you. Unless there's some sockpuppeting going on.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 14:25

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PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 14:26

I think he was quite brave actually

Hot new take.

Give that man the George Cross.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 14:27

Brave? I’ve heard it all now.

CaptainButtock · 21/06/2019 14:27

I am remain unconvinced he thought she was ‘armed’.
It looked an awful lot to me like he was absolutely furious that some uppity little woman had had the nerve to disturb the decorum at his posh dinner.

TurnAroundWhenPossible · 21/06/2019 14:27

But this was not an unprovoked assault on an innocent bystander was it.....Stop pretending she was innocent We have a legal right to peaceful protest in this country - a legal right.

I think he took reasonable action to stop her getting further as how was he supposed to know she wasn't armed. If you are worried somebody is armed, surely you grab their wrists, not their neck? He left her hands free, she could have stabbed him. He knew she was a peaceful protester.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:28

Fiddlesticks my response was to mummmy2017 not you. Unless there's some sockpuppeting going on.

They need to sort out proper threading, instead of voting. I realised that, I just meant that you'd still have to convince me it's assault (if you're bothered)! I'm quite sure it isn't.

CaptainButtock · 21/06/2019 14:28

“I am remain” lol...Freudian slip...

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 14:29

Let’s what, if anything, he’s charged with. The police are now considering doing exactly that.

Buster72 · 21/06/2019 14:29

No one is suggesting that they shouldnt be escorted out. It is the assault that is the issue. Christ alive

Please tell us how you escort someone off of premises, who clearly don't want to leave, without laying on hands....what magic powers do you possess

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:31

Let’s what, if anything, he’s charged with. The police are now considering doing exactly that.

This is good advice.

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