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Man-handling climate change protestors

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Leafyhouse · 20/06/2019 23:17

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

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Twyler · 21/06/2019 14:31

Jap, no I would of course be unhappy if such reasonable force were applied to any members of my family but if they had presented a perceived threat to a government minister or royal family member or suchlike I could not really complain.

Should the lady in question have just been allowed to reach Hammond and do whatever she had in mind before any action was taken? If not how should she have been stopped?

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 14:31

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TantricTwist · 21/06/2019 14:31

What did she expect, to keep walking around and not one person do a single thing about it. I don't think so.

Of course he was brave, she could have had a knife.

Just because she is a white middle class looking woman doesn't mean she didnt have a knife or weapon on her does it.

Buster72 · 21/06/2019 14:31

tWe have a legal right to peaceful protest in this country - a legal right

That right does not extend to trespass....

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:32

By the way, it's not helping when people use "assault" and "force" interchangeably. They're not the same thing. I think we can all agree that he used force. The question is whether it was an assault.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 14:33

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FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:34

Hi Smile, understood.

Plus would be happy for family members to treated in the same way.

I did exempt my gran 😆

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StreamsFullOfStars · 21/06/2019 14:34

If your definition of assault isn't grabbing someone and pushing them I really can't help expand your knowledge

Well maybe you should expand your own knowledge. If this were correct, then every bouncer and police officer in the country would constantly be up in court for assault. Often you need to grab someone and push someone to remove them from a place. Have you never been in a pub or club where someone has had to be physically ejected? And were you so outraged about that as well?

The hysterical response here is frankly ridiculous. She deliberately put herself in a situation where she was highly likely to be forcefully be removed, if not by a guest then by police or security.

The story seems to be getting better and more hysterical with each telling yet she wasn't even injured.

MissEliza · 21/06/2019 14:36

I don't have a problem with him touching her to stop her. I have a problem with the way he did it.

thethethethethe · 21/06/2019 14:36

She was not laughing. She looked shocked.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:36

The hysterical response here is frankly ridiculous.

Well said - I was avoiding that word - I'm already under suspicion!

Aquilla · 21/06/2019 14:37

Good on him.

TantricTwist · 21/06/2019 14:38

He went into protective mode that's all. He got up to stop her walking any further and you can see her pushing aggressively against him so he stepped up his force to remove her as he probably felt a slight surge of panic and anxiety as to why she wasn't simply turning around and walking away.

Who was filming it anyway?

mummmy2017 · 21/06/2019 14:40

At no point will I or have I agree she was assaulted .
She was an uninvited person, intent on reaching a member of the cabinet...
A high profile person, what do you think she intended to do when she got there,.because her attitude was not one of peace.... Also note she was cross to have been stopped...

LoafofSellotape · 21/06/2019 14:42

mummmy2017 I agree whole heartedly.

DuMondeB · 21/06/2019 14:42

Definition of assault (UK): en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_assault

TantricTwist · 21/06/2019 14:43

Well I hope she gets arrested for being there, despite everything else that happened.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 14:45

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TantricTwist · 21/06/2019 14:46

It's an insult to Greta Thunberg the way these women behaved last night, their actions have done nothing towards helping Climate Change in the slightest.

Leave it to the School children who are doing a much better and more peaceful job of it even if they are all bunking off School today to do it

Ladymargarethall · 21/06/2019 14:46

I read that there was no Security. There certainly should have been.
He could have handled it a lot better, but I was amazed that everyone seemed to just sit there and watch.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 14:47

Smile, you may be interested to know that the police have no powers in trespass matters at all!

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TantricTwist · 21/06/2019 14:49

How is it an insult to Greta? Straw clutching have half a brain and think about it a bit.