Very large lady next to me at theatre

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Went to theatre today and the lady next to me was so large I was left with no space at all. My legs were aching by the end as they were pushed together and I couldn't move at all. She kept repeatedly elbowing and jostling me without an apology.

AIBU to be irritated?

2. There is quite a few controversies.

Naturally. He was challenging an established view.

I am involved with vintage clothing and I can assure you that fashion right back to the 1920s, and before, catered for larger ladies!

But wasn't Marilyn Monroe (often mentioned as a curvier lady) actually a size 4 by modern measurements?

So for the vintage clothing, generally are the dress sizes smaller than now? Of course there were larger ladies then who were catered for. Just wondering what the norm was?

So would a size 10 now be the same size as a size 10 in the 70s or 80s?

I thought MM was a UK size 16? Probably more like a 10 or 12 though imo.

I can't see her being a UK 16 now. But she is always referred to as being curvy. So does that mean for that era she was a little larger than most? She doesn't look at all large to me. I'd love to have her figure.

Or is it that we use the word curvy differently now?

I've seen her clothes at an exhibition, tiny waist. Probably a size 6 or so.

Gosh yes vanity sizing nowadays is quite a thing. Sizing has changed a lot over the years - for example 1950s dresses assumed a theoretical waist hip ratio that has no basis in reality. The only way to accurately size a vintage dress is to ignore the label and get out a tape measure! This is how I can assure you that they certainly had dresses for large ladies! And of course a lot of the nicer stuff was not mass produced, but made by a seamstress to fit the individual. MM was a perfectly normal size in her day ;-)

I had same measurements as reported about MM when I was 20 except that I am bit taller. 🙈Size 12. But with slight difficulty to fit boobs into tops properly 🙈

I suppose like many of us, her weight varied over her life time? She would have had a girdle etc to achieve the desired effect. Is there some "nonsense" I am unaware of?

A 24 waist I think is a small size 8 uk

Size 8 is a broad church though, the actual measurements often tell a different story! I can fit a size 8 but my flabby middle is more like 27" . If I wore a girdle I could be like MM, but would need huge falsies. Also stilts!!

Please, can we not just accept that we come in all shapes and sizes?

@NinjaInFluffyPJs, I also have a boobage issue. Oh to have the funds for a seamstress.

@Kennehora thanks for the links

@zonkin oh yes. You either can't breath or the top is too free over the middle🙄 annoying.
Though I don't have that problem now with size 20. Hopefully in max 2 years I will moan about it again😂 Fingers crossed. So far the changes in eating back to way I used to before moving to UK are going well.

@NinjaInFluffyPJs - great stuff. Good luck with it. Not that you need luck.

in my NHS trust programmes are run with group discussion, and gentle exercise sessions in the park. Referrals are made by GPs. Additionally, subsidised gym places are given. The take up is very low

I find this interesting, especially in view of the many complaints I've heard that "there's just no support to lose weight"

I wonder how widespread this lack of take up is?

I can’t deal with a someone who fidgets, which is why I rarely go to the theatre or cinema, and I drive everywhere because I can’t stand sitting on a bus/train. And when someone is in your personal space it can make you feel really on edge. Or it does for me anyway.

I am developing a bit of a hunch due to my boobs as I get embarrassed. Posture terrible. I'm doing some weights to try and sort that out.

But I would really love a seamstress!

I also don't go to the cinema any more. People chatting loudly, getting their phones out etc.

Completely agree that personal space is important.

zonkin you can be your own seamstress! Once you learn how to personalise a dress pattern you can have a go at anything. Loads of tutorials on YouTube, but be warned, you may get the bug!

@Puzzledandpissedoff I expect it varies from trust to trust. Also some of the councils will also run courses (again I think you need a GP referral).

They are becoming fewer and far between though as take up is low and the funding can't be justified. Also, quite a few people drop out.

@CarolinePooter I'm quite rubbish at these things but I will go and have a look . Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Interesting point about the funding, Zonkin. We hear constant claims about "cuts"and how services have been "cut to the bone", but then if they're not used it's hardly to be expected that they'll be maintained

Just a thought ...