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Reach for the stars, sun, moon or Mars. Trump thread 94

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lionheart · 07/06/2019 22:27

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-07/trump-s-tariffs-have-wiped-out-most-families-tax-cut-gains

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Roussette · 16/06/2019 12:17

From the report....

'The first specific criterion is the ability to take in important information and advice. To be capable of taking in new information to make decisions, given how that is one of the primary and most important roles of a president.

The second criterion is the ability to process that information unimpeded by emotional needs or false beliefs or the need to lie to yourself or others. The ability to simply use the information you have and process it in ways that are normal, unimpeded by all those other emotional factors and needs.

The third criterion is to be able to make sound, rational, reality-based decisions without undue influence by impulsivity, other false beliefs, delusions and conspiracy theories. It's the ability to stay with a decision in a stable way and not to go back and forth depending on the other influences you receive. In essence, to be sane, to be connected to reality.

The fourth is to not put yourself and others in danger. This includes not inciting people to commit dangerous acts. Not to engage in aggressive acts yourself. Not to threaten nations by inciting war. We have found that President Trump was not able to refrain from those acts in many circumstances. Trump has put himself and the nation in danger, and putting yourself or others in danger is also a very important criterion in determining a person's capacity to serve — in this case, Trump's fitness to be president. There is overwhelming evidence in the Mueller report showing that Donald Trump is not able to meet these criteria. Likewise, there is very little evidence showing that Donald Trump is able to meet those criteria.'

Whosorrynow · 16/06/2019 12:31

some more from the report, reading it I fear for America, I'm going to listen to the podcast too

Recently Donald Trump threatened a list of public servants with charges of treason, a crime which is punishable by death. Trump did this out of apparent rage at the Mueller report. A few days before, Trump paraded out all his sycophants to say that Nancy Pelosi is a liar and that he had not thrown a temper tantrum during a recent meeting with her — despite witnesses who confirm those accounts. One would think that a healthy person would be cowed by the Mueller report and now proceed with great caution. Instead, Donald Trump is acting even worse.

A mentally unwell person like Donald Trump can no longer see reality for what it is. Instead he has to believe in false beliefs. A person like him has to lie to himself and lie to others. They have to distort the truth. They have to espouse conspiracy theories in order to even tolerate existing in this world, let alone facing reality. A mentally unwell person like Trump cannot accept facts for what they are. He cannot accept the results of the Mueller report as they are. People around Trump sense this.

That is why Attorney General Barr, who is supposed to represent the law, actually distorted the law in order to buttress and protect Donald Trump. Perhaps Barr thought this ploy was necessary for Trump to continue on mentally? Trump would likely not be able to accept the Mueller report if it was presented to him factually. I have been highlighting this fact repeatedly: There is institutional complicity with the leader, who is the center of power in a destructive regime

lionheart · 16/06/2019 12:47

Swamp.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/16/the-best-people-review-trump-swamp-cabinet

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cozietoesie · 16/06/2019 13:33

Thanks, Roussette.

lionheart · 16/06/2019 13:44

She looks like she can keep her head.

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cozietoesie · 16/06/2019 13:46

And also thanks to Whosorry.

Whosorrynow · 16/06/2019 17:41

Found this interesting

CNN's Fareed Zakaria explains why some of America's closest allies are looking to undermine the country's economic strength it does feel as if Trump is prepared to reduce America to a 2nd world country with weak institutions and failing rule of law just so long as he can be the big man at the top:(
lionheart · 16/06/2019 23:15

Trump Heights? FFS.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48656431

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TheClaws · 17/06/2019 00:39

David Frum @davidfrum
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The US military is not briefing the US president on major cyber warfare operations against a hostile foreign power because they do not trust the president not to betray those operations to that hostile foreign power.

TheClaws · 17/06/2019 00:44

Here he goes again with the ‘Enemy of the People’ routine - dangerous, yes, but even more dangerous is the dangled threat of staying on after his term has expired.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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A poll should be done on which is the more dishonest and deceitful newspaper, the Failing New York Times or the Amazon (lobbyist) Washington Post! They are both a disgrace to our Country, the Enemy of the People, but I just can’t seem to figure out which is worse? The good.....

.....news is that at the end of 6 years, after America has been made GREAT again and I leave the beautiful White House (do you think the people would demand that I stay longer? KEEP AMERICA GREAT), both of these horrible papers will quickly go out of business & be forever gone!

TheClaws · 17/06/2019 02:54

I could think of few others without even thinking.

Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT
"There's never been a time in the history of our country where somebody was so mistreated as I have been," Trump tells
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TheClaws · 17/06/2019 03:00

Naturally ...

The Australian @australian
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Saudi Crown Prince #MohammedBinSalman accused arch-rival #Iran of attacks on oil tankers in a vital Gulf shipping channel. #GulfofOman

lionheart · 17/06/2019 06:38

Of course.

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Roussette · 17/06/2019 08:13

An interesting article lion ... yes the future is the younger generation and therein lies hope.

Trump is increasingly on Twitter ranting and raving, I knew he ws demented but he honestly does seem to be getting a lot worse.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 17/06/2019 14:31

This is Texas.

43% definitely won't vote for Trump
39% definitely will

When it comes to general election polls, the only one that matters is the one that forces Republicans to spend tens of millions to hold a state they've taken for granted for decades.
twitter.com/lolgop/status/1140611478501953536?s=21
Trump’s reelection support is 50-50 in Texas, Biden and O’Rourke lead the Democrats, UT/TT Poll says
www.texastribune.org/2019/06/17/trump-reelection-50-50-biden-orourke-lead-democrats-ut-tt-poll/

AcrossthePond55 · 17/06/2019 15:28

What does he mean by '6 years'? Does he not realize that a POTUS can serve 8 years? God forbid, but I don't get why he specifies 6 years. Unless he's been told that IF he's reelected (God forbid, spit on the ground, stomp it, spin three times and say 'No whammy') he'll be out in year 2 of his second term (like Nixon?).

He's supposedly going to formally announce his bid for reelection on 18/6. I guess this will mark the beginning of the 'official' campaign season for all candidates. I don't know if I can handle the next 17 months. Biden said this is going to be the worst campaign season in the history of the country. I believe it. The bar has been lowered and we can only pray that most candidates will not sink to Scrotus' level.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/06/2019 15:33

I think he is assuming a second term and means six years from now, not from the start of his presidency.

Let's hope for the sake of the planet that it is only two years. Or rather, eighteen months.

AcrossthePond55 · 17/06/2019 15:52

Thanks, Asking! I'm sure you're right. I've been out in the wilds and trying not to pay too close attention to his goings on. I wondered if I'd missed something!

Let's hope for the sake of the planet that it is only two years. Or rather, eighteen months.

From your lips (or keyboard) to God's ear!

Lweji · 17/06/2019 16:22

Or 6 years into the Presidency, which is the time to start a second campaign?

lionheart · 17/06/2019 19:26

Transcript of the interview.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-george-stephanopoulos-exclusive-interview-president/story?id=63749144

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