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To think some parents are far too over protective.

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ScottishJo31 · 07/06/2019 18:59

Hi all, I am fully prepared to get flamed for this I have 3 children aged 9, 5 and 1 ( all boys) my middle son is in reception and every week without fail there is a message on the class WhatsApp group which usually contains a photo regarding a child who has the odd scrape or bruise caused by general play or sometimes rough play, with accompanying statements such as I am heartbroken that my baby has got hurt by another child .. I trusted my baby in the schools care.. etc etc
The majority of these injuries are minor scuffs and the odd tiny bruise potentially "caused" by a child no older than 5 years old.
My sons class has a lot of children who do need to supervised carefully and monitored because they play fight and run around a lot at lunchtimes as most 5 years old do in my opinion!
My sons have always had the odd scratch and scrape and I never think to give them the third degree about it... yet some
Of the boys who have been a bit rough with my middle son are the very ones who have every minor bruise listed on these groups.
I appreciate parents do not want to see their children get hurt but to document every tiny mark seems excessive. I appreciate I may be in the minority about this but it seems a bit much- it's something I'm seeing more and more...!

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Eliza9919 · 08/06/2019 13:46

I agree. Some people are just ridiculous tbh.

DP reminded me last night of a playground game we also played at my school as well as his. Tunnel of terror. You get two rows of kids and they all make a tunnel with their hands like in oranges and lemons. Kids then run or crawl through the tunnel while all the other kids kick them.

Keep did today wouldn't have survived the 80's lol.

Eliza9919 · 08/06/2019 14:10

*kids today

Montsti · 08/06/2019 14:17

Yanbu....it’s ridiculous and quite honestly embarrassing...

PumpkinPie2016 · 08/06/2019 14:33

YANBU - that sounds ridiculous!

Kids fall/bump all the time, especially when they are playing. A few bumps/scrapes is hardly going to scar them for life!

My son frequently had bumps/scrapes and often can't even remember what he did.

Once, when he was in nursery he was running and fell but didn't put his arms out to stop the fall and got a nasty bump on his forehead that had to be superglued in A&E!

I didn't start posting messages about having trusted the nursery/him being hurt/me being devasted etc.It was an accident, it was dealt with and there is no lasting harm done (he has a teeny scar of about 3-4mm).

Some people just like drama - this is why I refuse to be on the class whatsAPP group!

ScottishJo31 · 08/06/2019 22:37

To me... it's just normal play... pretending to be superheroes, chasing each other around, having races and occasional wrestling matches... it is mainly the boys yes and all bar one or two of the boys join in and are all equally involved... generally this type of play peters off as they get older and discover sports and their own interests and they mature and grow. These boys are 4/5 and to me it's a normal part of play and development!

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HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 09/06/2019 00:18

Do the girls do this as well? Or do they get told not to? If they get told not to, but it's ok for boys to hurt each other, why do you think this is?

jennymanara · 09/06/2019 00:21

They get told not to. It is okay imo for girls and boys to do this.

Teddybear45 · 09/06/2019 00:22

No it’s not normal for boys to hit other boys just because they have a penis. Similarly it’s not normal for girls to mentally torture other girls just because they have a vagina. The way mixed sex schools are structured, and the attitudes of people like the OP, socialize kids to behave this way.

You always, always need to make a big deal out of all forms of abuse. It should never be blindly accepted as ‘boys being boys’ or ‘girls being girls’.

ScottishJo31 · 09/06/2019 09:29

I am just stating a fact.. it is mainly the boys... it's a small class with fewer girls and it tends to be the boys who get into scrapes more according to the WhatsApp app group and my own observations.

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ScottishJo31 · 09/06/2019 09:31

I haven't used the phrase boys will be boys anywhere in my op.

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ssd · 09/06/2019 09:35

Come off the WhatsApp group op and phone the school office and double check they gave your phone number and email, anything important will get to you and all the drivel from parents who mean fuck all will by pass you.

ssd · 09/06/2019 09:35

Have not gave

lovelyupnorth · 09/06/2019 09:35

YANBU

ssd · 09/06/2019 09:38

IME, not that WhatsApp was invented when mine were small, but IME it's always the parents of the class pain in the arse who would be accusing others of hurting their baby/angel....
Its so good when they get to high school and this shit stops

youarenotkiddingme · 09/06/2019 09:47

At that age my ds had so many bruises it would have been easier to document the bits of skin sticking through Grin

Yanbu.

And he's, ime the parents who do this have the worst culprits behaviour wise.

Maybe83 · 09/06/2019 10:00

See the just because of a penis statement and mental torture and term abuse regarding the behaviour of small children that is part of the problem.

Small children are just that, the constant rush to put adult thoughts and actions attached to them is completely ridiculous and unreasonable.

Generally a 5 year isnt a bully. They are a small child who hasn't learnt to control their emotions and understand fully cause and affect. Yes they need to learn that rough play over stimulation rough and tumble isnt acceptable. That you need to be kind and not hurt people.

The expectation that this should be fully completed and in place when they walk into school is unrealistic and unreasonable.

If that was the case what is the point of childhood and continued development!

My daughter secondary school says the lack of emotional resilience of students is now one of the biggest challenges the school faces.

Becathourus · 09/06/2019 10:12

I don't think I've gone one week with my dd in reception and not received an accident note. She's fallen from a tree and grazed her belly. Stumbled with a magnifying glass and it imprinted on her face. A candle holder broke and cut her finger. A teacher opened a draw and bumped dd's head against it.

She's surrounded by teachers and grown ups who wouldn't purposely let her get hurt and she's had a fun day at school.Smile

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 09/06/2019 10:23

Ok then OP if it's mainly the boys being rough with each other and the school aren't doing anything about it then yes there is a problem. If the school are at least trying, for eg encouraging them to have gentle hands and treat each other kindly and calmly intervening, explaining and modelling good behaviour, that's fine. But if the school has your attitude that "rough play" and "play fighting" ie children hitting each other, is fine and just letting them get on with it, that's not fine at all and if I were a parent at that school I would be frustrated with the school's lack of action and by the seeming inability of parents such as you to find ways of stopping your kids hitting other children.

HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 09/06/2019 10:26

And LOL at all the middle class posters vying to show how non precious they are with tales of falling out of trees etc when this is not what the thread is about.

InTheHeatofLisbon · 09/06/2019 10:30

All of my bairns have had scrapes, bruises and the usual array of minor injuries from school and I haven't batted an eyelid. Once I did, when DS1 ended up in A&E with a pretty severe head wound (deep and wide cut) because of negligence, but because it was so serious and I don't have a habit of overreacting, it was taken seriously and dealt with properly by the school. Retraining for the staff who should have been 2-1 on the child who caused the injury (ASN school, child had no understanding of the consequence of his action and was deeply upset when DS1 was hurt), and more staff out during playtimes.

If you kick up a fuss at every tiny little thing, nobody will listen when it's really something worth making a fuss over.

InTheHeatofLisbon · 09/06/2019 10:36

Also, I hate group chats with people I actually know and like, let alone with a bunch of people I have bugger all in common with beyond giving birth at around the same time. A whole class WhatsApp group sounds about as appealing as soft play at peak time on a rainy bank holiday Mondayn

Lifeover · 09/06/2019 10:37

Bloody hell my 7 year old has spent the last 6 years covered in grazes, bruises cuts from just generally being a kid. They fall over, run into things etc. But I think if any other kid caused these thing intentionally this would need addressing. Violence at any age is not acceptable

Never ever come across such comments on class WhatsApp. Normally what the hell is this homework, seem to have acquired additional jumper after pe etc.

ScottishJo31 · 09/06/2019 10:38

It's not hitting though, nor violence it is mainly chasing and pretending to be superheroes and policemen.... no where have I said there is violence involved other than the odd scuffle which of course I expect to be dealt with appropriately and the school have taken steps to stop them getting carried away and it turning into something more. I am taking about the odd bruise, bump or scrape that the parent involved tend to blame on other children without fully the cause.

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ScottishJo31 · 09/06/2019 10:38

Knowing

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InTheHeatofLisbon · 09/06/2019 10:39

I am taking about the odd bruise, bump or scrape that the parent involved tend to blame on other children without fully the cause.

It's attention seeking in the modern age. Put something in a group chat and watch the consolations and faux indignation come rolling in.

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