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Jamie and James? Same name?

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SparkleGem · 04/06/2019 21:45

Ok so I know this is nothing to do with me, so don't need you all telling me that. But this couple I know have just had a son a few weeks back, I'll not say his first name but his middle names are Jamie James so.. - first name - Jamie James - second name. Is this only me that's finding this, silly and weird? I thought Jamie and James are the same name. I'm just finding it rather strange.. anyone else find the silly? Hmm

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ViserionTheDragon · 04/06/2019 23:47

Unknown = I know

pickme · 04/06/2019 23:51

I knew a Dafid Dafid. First name surname!

Dergadgeghead · 04/06/2019 23:56

Someone I knew at school had two sisters with the same first name. The older sister was always known by a nickname so when another girl was born, her mother used the name again as she liked it and the first girl with it wasn't using it!

Korvalscat · 05/06/2019 00:15

My middle name is Jane, in baby name books my first name is always shown as a form of Jane/derived from Jane. Guess my parents didn't read baby books. My exh's middle name was John and his first name was John in a different language (think Ian/Sean/Evan/Ivan), so Jane Jane (female version of John) was married to John John Smile

I agree with others that Jamie is a diminutive of James so in effect they are the same name

NooNooHead1981 · 05/06/2019 00:19

My dear departed brother was a Jamie but he was really a James on his birth certificate. Me and my DP only ever called him Jamie so why on Earth he was James as well is odd IMHO.

I think the whole ‘Jamie James’ names are a bit silly; surely Jamie is the diminutive form of James? Why don’t they just add Jay for good measure?!

LuannC · 05/06/2019 00:29

Bit strange but each to their own. I went to school with an Ali Ali! (No middle name)
Also knew a Jordan james Johnson which was baf enough. But mind you, knew a man last name john and he wanted to call his son Johnathon - his Mrs set him straight!

LuannC · 05/06/2019 00:34

Also had a teacher Mrs Francis and her first name was Francine, guess that couldn't be helped as she married a Mr Francis!

Hollyhobbi · 05/06/2019 00:42

I know of a Bryan O'Brien, Conor O'Connor and a Neill O'Neill! I do think Jamie is just a nickname for James though!

Graphista · 05/06/2019 00:52

What people call their kids fascinates me. I believe I've told this story before but I didn't know ANY of my mums side of the families actual first names until I was an adult because they ALL went/go by middle names, nicknames or shortened versions! Very confusing and when I think of their actual on the birth certificate first names none of them seem "right"

Dads side there was much naming of children after relatives including parents so often at least 2 people with the same first name living in a house - bonkers!!

Led to much confusion with post and phone calls, callers asking for "John" whichever John was in being passed the phone and then mid conversation one or both participants in the conversation realising it was the "wrong" "John" nuts!!

I still curse my parents for my name, it's relatively simple but it's scots but non-scots really can't pronounce it properly and so I've often had anglicisations spouted at me and it's rarely spelt correctly by non scots, I even had English teachers telling me off for pronouncing and spelling my OWN NAME correctly!

SnowyAlpsandPeaks · 05/06/2019 00:52

I know a David Davis, Lloyd Lloyd and a Toni Anthony.

Mouse510 · 05/06/2019 01:02

I know a Jack Iain (Surname). Jack is the diminutive of John and Iain is the Gaelic for John (you will find a lot of people called John in Scotland who are referred to as Iain) so her child is basically John John.

OP your friend could throw Hamish in there too, it’s the Scottish version of James 😆

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SparkleGem · 05/06/2019 01:07

@Mouse510 did not know hamish is a Scottish version of James... I am Scottish! Whoops Blush

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Tavannach · 05/06/2019 01:15

hamish is a Scottish version of James

Yep, was s relative's name. He was Hamish to all family and friends, and James at work and on academic papers. His dad had been James, Jim to family and friends and his son is James, Jamie to family and friends (but within the last ten years Jamie has started to use that name at work too).

PissOffPeppa · 05/06/2019 01:24

I used to teach a couple of children who were part of a family with five children. I won’t use their real names here but it was similar to this:

Oldest daughter: Danielle
Oldest son: Daniel
Middle daughter: Isabelle
Twin son and daughter: Mario & Maria

Lovely children but I never could understand the naming situation!

cheeseislife8 · 05/06/2019 01:28

My Mum used to know a Ted Edwards when I was growing up. It must have been short for Edward and I always wondered what his parents must have been thinking!

DieCryHate · 05/06/2019 09:38

I knew a Judy Jude. She got the surname by marriage though, not silly parents!

Bezalelle · 05/06/2019 09:47

There's a huge difference between regional/cultural naming conventions, coincidental duplication through marriage, and the "Jamie James" fuckwittery, surely.

SerenDippitty · 05/06/2019 09:53

I also think it's strange when people give their children (usually boys) almost the same name as their surname e.g. David Davies, John Johnson, Richard Richards (not to be confused with Rik in Bottom grin).

Not uncommon in Wales. I knew of a David Davies who was known as Dai Twice. Also as a child knew a Ted Edwards and a Bob Roberts.

What often happens is that if someone is called something like John Jones they will be known by both their first names I.e John Wyn Jones to distinguish them from all the other John Joneses.

GarthFunkel · 05/06/2019 09:56

I know a Robert Roberts - Robert was his mother's favourite name and she'd always wanted to have a son called Robert. Marrying someone with the surname Robert wasn't going to stop her.

Marinkazurie · 05/06/2019 09:57

I've never considered James and Jamie as "the same" name, not Tom and Thomas or Sam and Samuel. While they are diminutives, they both stand as their own names. I have dated both a James who was just James, no nickname, and a Jamie who was Jamie on the BC and would hate to be mistaken for a James. But it is weird to pair them together. I have a Charlie in the family and wouldn't associate the name Charles with him at all because it's not short for Charles in his case. Just like when I see an Eli I don't think his name is Elijah even though Eli can be a nickname for that name, when I see a Rosie, I don't think "Rose", nor "Ellie/Eleanor" etc. But still Rosie Rose would be odd!

GarthFunkel · 05/06/2019 09:57

And I also used to live next to Paul and Pauline, with their daughter Paula and son Gary, or Not-Paul as everyone else called him.

44HuntJas · 05/06/2019 10:01

We have a Thomas Thompson somewhere in the family. Goes by Tommy/Tom usually though.

x2boys · 05/06/2019 10:02

@GarthFunkel Not paul😂😂I used to know a Bernard married to a Bernadette and a Mavis Davis (married name).

daisypond · 05/06/2019 10:09

Jacob is also the same name as James- hence why we talk about the Jacobean age in reference to the king.

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