AIBU to think believing science can change sexual orientation is a logical and reasonable assumption?

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From Ann Widdicome who believes that as science can change a person's sex then its logical that science could change a person's sexual orientation? To be clear I dont believe this, I dont think science (be it hormones or extreme plastic surgery) can change a person's sex, let alone a person's sexual orientation but for those who do believe humans can change sex, do you agee? If not, why not?

@RickJames In my experience very out spoken homophobes are often gay.

Ah the old ‘something to hide’.

@Agnurse, if two men or two women love each other and get married, who does that harm exactly?

OP there are a lot of people bashing you about this question. I do not think you are homophobic in any way and I have genuninely interested in your question. I think the issue is that if we could make gay people straight that would mean that there is something wrong with being gay. I have a gay son and have no issue with a partner he may choose. It would be interesting to know that if there was something, say a tablet that could be taken to make someone attracted to another sex, how many people would take it? In this day and age not many I wouldn't think but I do know that when being gay was illegal that most people would have done anything not to be.

Yes, I’ve always thought Anne Widdecombe was gay. I’ve never believed this asexual bollocks. Same with Cliff Richard.

Shame really, if AW came out I think she could be a great ally.

clearly chemicals can have a substantial affect on a person's attitude. In those terms, it's possible.

what is it going to be, chemically castrate the gays? available on the NHS?

@agnurse its vile attitudes like yours that lead to people people beaten up.

Did I ever say i condoned violence against gay people? I do not.

No put you promote they idea that gay people are wrong and need to be changed.

No put you promote they idea that gay people are wrong and need to be changed.

‘LGBTQ’ media is more than capable of putting across the idea that lesbians are wrong. thevelvetchronicle.com/lesbian-couple-attacked-by-male-passengers-on-bus/

@agnurse
You still haven't answered.

could you describe or define this uniquely feminine attitude that is shared by all women across all cultures? Ditto the specifically male attitude. Tell me what it is, because I genuinely do not know.

What exactly is it that means that if I was in love with another woman and felt our life's happiness depended on being together you think we should not be allowed because there is something some random man might provide that she couldn't?

There is a major problem with your statement.

Your life's happiness should never depend on another person. Ever. That isn't healthy. Happiness is something you choose.

Femininity is something women are. It's the nature of who we are. Exactly how this plays out may differ depending on culture, but the fact remains that men and women are fundamentally different.

No one is saying it's not possible to be single and happy. But you shouldn't have to be.

Femininity is something women are. It's the nature of who we are. Exactly how this plays out may differ depending on culture, but the fact remains that men and women are fundamentally different.

but you can't actually explain how every single gay man is fundamentally unequipped to complement every other single gay man?

people's own experience is irrelevant, you know something fundamental about them that a couple that may have been happy for 50 years together obviously don't know

There are lots of drugs on the market that can cause delusions. However, the true 'cure' for an 'unhappy homosexual' (AW's words) is to live in a world where they are accepted and treated with love and respect.

If you shouldn't "have to be" single and happy, then someone has an obligation to become your spouse.

Two men can never equal the same thing as a man and a woman because they are not designed to do so. Their bodies were never designed to complement one another, nor were their minds.

So if two men think their minds complement each other and that they're having amazing sex- this doesn't count because you are there to tell them?

I still don't quite get how every single man on the planet would complement me in exactly the same way- they all seem so different. Some seem traditionally masculine, some have more traditionally feminine traits: how can all those minds do exactly the same job?

so i why should i as a gay person be celibate my entire life just beuase you cnt wrap your head around the idea that people are individuals. if they are consenting adults that where is the harm? who is the victim?

but why do you keep comparing a loving homosexual relationship to people killing each other? what is your rationale?

I repeat if two people love each other and make each other happy and genuinely feel their minds complement each other- what is your argument for claiming you know it can't be true?

but if two people of the same sex have an honest consensual relationship what harm does it cause? who is the victim?

One of the primary purposes of marriage is to provide a stable foundation for the raising of children. The only way that children can be born is through a man and a woman. Anything else doesn't work. Now, I recognize that some people are naturally infertile due to age or a problem with their bodies. But the natural intention of their bodies is still to be open to new life. In a same-sex relationship that is not possible. It's a contravention of the design and purpose of marriage.

but if two people actually don't want children, or cannot have them, why should they not have a relationship which allows them to express their love for each other?

and btw- if you are basing this on Genesis 9: 7 most people would probably agree that that commandment has been fulfilled (and some!) by now and that the earth is well and truly filled

quite apart from the fact that not all people are Christian