AIBU pregnant & turned away from training

[MimiKoko]

AIBU to be ticked off ? Please forgive me very pregnant and a little hormonally emotional- if there’s such a thing. So I have a seasonal job which requires me to attend a training session before I can commence the short term contract - training was today a Saturday- I was meant to be there at 10am a nice hotel - quite far from where I live got there 33 minutes late because I had a bad night- couldn’t get up on time - public transport on a Saturday in London isn’t the best either - nothing in confirmation email said if you’re late you will not be let in - got there after they ladies at the door “conferred” I was told can’t come in after lugging laptop etc all that way - I’ve done this job for years not particularly taxing, offered to make the time up at lunch - transport was quite expensive being London - now lost the contract as can’t do it without attending the training - just majorly annoyed at subtle pregnancy discrimination - need the money and really would not have been late on purpose - being on the underground there’s no contact number to ring whilst enroute.

I don't see how you imagined you could make the time up.

Sorry but like others you needed to be up on time for training pregnant or not. For something critical re getting a contract, I’d have been planing to get there at 9.30 at the latest so there was wiggle room. While pregnant with no.2 I had to leave the house at 6 every day. It nearly killed me but I had to do it. 10 is a late start really.

You sound very precious. The world doesn't revolve around you and your "difficult" pregnancy.

Op, you are pregnant, not sick. Grow up, you should be able to get up in time for something if you are having a baby.

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Awkward!

Sorry it was because you were late, I bet they refused entry to everyone who was late (up to 10 mins is about acceptable) if I was running training I would not accept late comers unless there's was a very specific reason (eg the train was held because someone jumped onto the tracks which happened recently). Being pregnant is not an excuse for being late

You were late, has nothing to do with being pregnant, unless they were letting non pregnant people in late.

Yabu. Completely.

I don't accept latecomers to training at all - unless it is during the 10 minutes of running through the arrangements for the day/plan of training/ expected outcomes/discussion rules etc.

I am delivering very specific anatomical and physiological information to people who have no biology qualifications, and it is cumulative stuff. If you miss even the first 5 minutes of 'course' stuff, it contains a huge amount of information you need to understand what comes later, so you may not follow the rest of it. If I allowed late-comers, I'd be constantly recapping and not moving on. Someone turning up half an hour late would have no clue what the hell I was talking about.

Whether or not they were pregnant.

Op . I had hyperemissis during my pregnancy so know how difficult it can be however . You will be in the situation of going to work with no sleep because baby has sleep regression , teething, just decided tonight was not a good night for sleeping.

If you knew your contract was reliant on been on time you should of allowed extra time.

Rather than feeling hard done by can you do the training elsewhere?

The TFL website has a really useful journey planner taking into account current delays/works/whatever. I daresay they have an app too.

I get weekly e-mails from tfl giving advance notice of weekend closures, diversions etc. The national rail companies have advance info about engineering works on their websites and at stations. I never plan to travel at the weekend without checking the journey beforehand.

I've been at a training session where the trainers delayed starting because they were waiting for people who were late. Pissed me off. All the more because I knew the late people travelled by the same route I did, and I'd managed to be on time.

Again pregnancy for some people is quite tough so yes I do think women should be given a break under difficult circumstances even if it’s not “discrimination” oh come on. I'm currently pregnant, I have hyperemesis and I'm also in constant pain. I do everything I can to show I can still manage. If I needed reasonable adjustments I would get them as long as I informed my employer. I'm assuming you didn't even call as I can't see that you did. I couldn't just rock up whenever i like to work when i have a care home to manage.

Guess op has left the building. I'm not surprised

Lets hope you never face any real discrimination OP.

I run training sessions for businesses. Anyone that turns up late gets turned away. I would actually expect people to turn up at least 15 minutes early to settle and prepare themselves for the session. Lateness is rude and disrespectful. You being turned away has absolutely nothing to do with being pregnant.

bee222 exactly.

No way op planned in being there for 10. The very latest would have been 9.45. And if public transport is as bad as some posters make out she would have aimed to ge there earlier and allowed more time on top, just incase.

If this job is so important to her, of course.

Sounds more like she just assumed rocking up and saying 'but I am pregnant' would mean they had to let her in.

It’s not pregnancy discrimination OP, it’s latecomer discrimination. Awful I know, but lobbying the authorities for better protections for the timekeeping-challenged isn’t progressing at all well, there are surprisingly large numbers of people who aren’t at all sympathetic to the cause.

Seriously, you were late, as in you snooze, pregnancy-related or not, you lose. And I’m another who wonders how you’d make up the time at lunch without the trainer being obliged to give up their lunch too?

Congratulations on the the first person to be pregn... hang on? No... nothing the pregnancy manual says late is ok. Millions of women manage it every day.
If you're I'll, then go to the GP. If you're just pregnant, be on time.

Just popping in to congratulate myself on getting to 8 months pregnant without having been late to work/getting kids to school/anything actually.

But pregnant women do get allowances made... I'm a teacher. I don't get to be late because I'm pregnant. You're taking the piss.

It's absolutely 100% because you showed on Day Zero that you couldn't turn up on time. The correct thing to do it forewarn your place of work that you may arrive late due to XYZ and then they could tell you in advance not to bother.

You would have thought they would have waited for you to arrive, wouldn't you?