AIBU pregnant & turned away from training

[MimiKoko]

AIBU to be ticked off ? Please forgive me very pregnant and a little hormonally emotional- if there’s such a thing. So I have a seasonal job which requires me to attend a training session before I can commence the short term contract - training was today a Saturday- I was meant to be there at 10am a nice hotel - quite far from where I live got there 33 minutes late because I had a bad night- couldn’t get up on time - public transport on a Saturday in London isn’t the best either - nothing in confirmation email said if you’re late you will not be let in - got there after they ladies at the door “conferred” I was told can’t come in after lugging laptop etc all that way - I’ve done this job for years not particularly taxing, offered to make the time up at lunch - transport was quite expensive being London - now lost the contract as can’t do it without attending the training - just majorly annoyed at subtle pregnancy discrimination - need the money and really would not have been late on purpose - being on the underground there’s no contact number to ring whilst enroute.

It’s not pregnancy discrimination

Just because someone has done something you’re not happy about and you happen to be pregnant, doesn’t make it discrimination.
What a joke.

Yabu, I hate it when people are late, and not being able to get out of bed is a crap excuse, whether pregnancy related or not. If you didn't even call them to warn them you are being incredibly rude. It's saying your time is more important than theirs. Once again yabu

You mean ‘30 minutes late and turned away from training’

Think they dodged a bullet with you OP.
Terrible attitude.
Do you really think ‘bad night’ is a good enough excuse?
It was your responsibility to get there on time. Pregnancy is no excuse and if your pregnancy was causing that much of an issue, you wouldn’t have gone in the first place.
You’ve got a bad attitude, the world doesn’t revolve around you.
You can’t just shout ‘discrimination!’ whenever something doesn’t go your way. Work on your attitude, stop looking for excuses

You think you should be “given a break”. Well if you need to leave and go vomit you should be able to.
YABU to think you should be able to rock up so late and be let in.

30mins late for training in London on a Saturday is nothing - some flexibility should be provided considering most tube lines have work going on on the weekend. I have done professional training (with external exams) and that’s not considered a big deal. You should have pushed back harder and complained.

Also name and shame the training company.

It's nothing to do with pregnancy discrimination, what a joke. You were late. End of! If it's important, get up earlier next time.

I think you're getting a hard time, @EarHere

Deservedly so.

I frequently work Saturday and Sunday mornings in London involving a 1.5 hour commute each way. I’ve never once been late in eight years.

most tube lines have work going on on the weekend
Then OP should’ve considered that and done the journey earlier to ensure she was there on time.
I’m sure they’d have allowed her in had she been 5 minutes late. But she was half an hour late!
name and shame
Really? And say what? ‘I was 30 minutes late and they wouldn’t let me in...how dare they’

It's not pregnancy discrimination though. You were late and half an hour is quite a lot for a training course. 10am isn't exactly an early start either.

@daisy - I also have a similar commute and call bullshit. Unless you’re walking it? Some lines just aren’t open on the weekend and you don’t often get advanced warning. Even during the week if one line is closed it can lead to hour long intervals for train.

@Ladymoneypenny - as someone who works in a company and personally authorises millions of pounds worth of external training - I would be incredibly pissed off if a colleague was turned away for being 30mins late. This is something that definitely needs to be escalated.

I get the impression that you're one of these very special pregnant people rather than just a standard pregnant person like the rest of us would be.

@Teddybear45 and I would be incredibly pissed off if an employee of mine turned up to training 30 minutes late. There’s a massive difference between being 5/10 minutes late and taking the piss by being 30 minutes late before crying ‘discrimination’

I started work at 7am, left the house at 6am to beat the traffic, 5 days a week, and worked until I was 37 weeks. I wasn't late once. I'm sure others have had much bigger challenges too. Pregnancy is not an excuse for being late!

I honestly can't believe you're simple enough to think this was due to you being pregnant and not because you were late.. 33 minutes late, not even 5/10 minutes.

I have a 10 month old who doesn't sleep, every night is a bad night - I'm still at work at 8am, with a 45 minute commute and getting us both ready for nursery and work first.

@Teddybear45. It's absolutely possible to travel in London on weekends and not be late hundreds of people do it hospital staff, retail workers, restaurant workers, people just traveling to theatre and many many more.

Everyone all ready on the course had made it on time. It may not be as easy as Monday to Friday but that's life when you agree to be somewhere at a set time it's your responsibility to get there not the companies!

This isn't a genuine problem on the trains delaying the op no broken down train or cancelled service ect the op didn't get up on time to make the journey how is that the companies fault? Why should she or anyone get special treatment to the others at the training who planned their journeys and arrived on time? We don't know any of their circumstances or what barriers they faced getting there but they did.

I deliver training, and I would turn away someone who was 30 minutes late- that’s a fair chunk in.

Offering to make it up- the trainers will have their hands full at break, lunch and after it finishes, with emails, phones calls, and candidates asking questions. When people used to ask me that, I’d say fine, make it up, once I’ve finished what I have to do, so shall we start about 6:45pm?? Funny no one ever took me up on that offer.........

And no it’s not discrimination. You just ‘couldn’t get up’. Which actually I would questions your suitability for the contract. 🤷🏻‍♀️Sorry.

teddybear it is not bullshit. At the weekends you check the night before to see if there’s going to be work on the tube lines you need, and if so you plan an alternative route allowing additional time. I work weekends every four weeks.

You were turned away because you were late, not because you are pregnant.

There is a huge amount of information at your fingertips about buses and tubes in London. Those of us who live in the sticks find it really easy to navigate about. Bus stops give predicted times to the next bus. The TFL website has a really useful journey planner taking into account current delays/works/whatever. I daresay they have an app too. If you do all that, have your journey planned building in a bit of wiggle space, then arrive at the station to find the tube's delayed or whatever, you call. You explain and either ask to attend on a different date, or at least warn of lateness.

You don't just rock up 33 minutes late and then squeal about discrimination when the organisers are less than impressed.

Teddybear45 if only something was invented like the internet so the OP could see line closures.

Besides which OP was late because she didnt get herself put of bed.

I run training one of the UK's largest employers. I would be perfectly happy with someone being turned away.

OP was actually more than half an hour late than she would have hoped. Who plans to turn up at 10am, when training starts at 10am. Surely op should have been planning on getting their early anyway.

The reason being if they cant even manage to turn up to training, they arent reliable.

Congratulations, OP. Have my very first YABU.