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Feeling bitter about mentoring new colleague who is paid 10k more than I am

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BitteryButterBeer · 28/05/2019 21:24

Name changed to reflect my bitterness. I can't give any more info (I.e. need to keep things quite vague as my boss is a member on here!) but I don't think the specifics matter much.

New person started at work 8 weeks ago. I applied for the job as an internal applicant but didn't get it. I met all the essential criteria and am already doing the job that was offered, though not formally. My feedback was that I needed another year or two to 'grow and gain more experience'. I've been in my current role for 2.5 years. I live in a very rural area and promotions like this rarely crop up. I don't think there's actually going to be another opportunity but unfortunately I cannot move home (to seek a higher paid role) for at least 7 years (again, a detail I can't elaborate on). So I'm now stuck in this position - working way above my role expectations - for almost another decade.

I really really tried not to be bitter about it. I assumed the new person was a good fit with lots of experience. That's why they got it over me. However, since day one, they have been shadowing me and I've been asked to be their mentor. I'm basically managing them. They ask me in the morning what they should be getting on with and I have to delegate. They ignore the phone when it rings because they're worried it's something they wont know the answer to. Because were so rural, the boss is desperate to retain staff as it's so difficult to recruit so are bending over backwards to make this person feel welcome so they don't leave. It's basically me and her in the office each day. I'm barely managing to keep up with the standard duties of my role because I'm so busy 'mentoring'. I'm having to spend an hour a night at home to reply to emails and work on a project (one I was only supposed to be doing temporarily til the new person arrived but she has said she doesn't feel confident taking over a project which is half finished). I have been on loads more training courses and got qualifications from these (semi-required for my job, absolutelt downright essential for hers) so im having to do those bits of her job until she's trained. She spends about 5 hours a day doing the online training for these while I pretty much had to do 75% of it in my own time due to how busy we were in work. I've spoken with my manager about this and I got a really defensive reply about how I'm making this personal due to not getting the job and I'm forgetting what it feels like to be new etc. They know fine well they've got me stuck here for another 7 years so would have no desire to promote me as my role would be even harder to recruit for than the promoted one the new person has just filled.

Aibu to feel bitter? There's a newly married team member who has been vocal about wanting a baby soon which would mean another promotion opportunity at some point, albeit temporary. Wibu to scare the bosses a little by saying at some point this week I'm looking at other opportunities because I'm worried about becoming 'stuck' (it would need to be something outside of my profession as there aren't any related jobs in my area)? They have said numerous times what an asset I am to the team and how much I bring to it and they don't ever want to lose me but I feel undervalued and do feel 'stuck' because they know I can't move for ages. I'm hoping this may lead to them considering me for any further promotion opportunities that may arise in order to keep me from leaving the team.

Gosh I sound so bitter. I'm a nice person, really! I uprooted my whole life and invested so much in moving here because I was told that there would be lots of promotion opportunities over the next 5 years. Lies.

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Ghanagirl · 28/05/2019 21:55

I think you are bitter for a good reason!

BitteryButterBeer · 28/05/2019 21:55

I would need to travel a 4 hour round trip each day if I were to look for promoted posts within my profession in the next nearest location. My current job has fab hours which suits my home life perfectly. I'm out from 8am each morning and home by 5pm at night. Taking a job further away (unable to move) would mean not getting home til near 7pm each night which would be extremely detrimental to my personal/home life situation and responsibilities.

I was stupid to move my whole life here for such a low paid job. However, I was newly qualified and desperate to take the first job I got offered as it's a competitive industry. I genuinely thought I'd be in a promoted role by now based on what they told me at my interview.

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BitOfFun · 28/05/2019 21:56

I'd be tempted to go full Erin Brockovich on your boss "NOT PERSONAL! That is my WORK, my SWEAT, and MY TIME AWAY FROM MY KIDS! IF THAT IS NOT PERSONAL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS!"

bubbaba · 28/05/2019 21:56

Know exactly what you mean, I'm rural too, already commute 3 hours a day and also been sh*t on by Work this way in regards to promotion, pay and overworked. After complaining to boss and higher they wouldn't change anything so I applied for another job (not doing something even remotely the same!), got it, told current employer and got a small pay rise. But....it didn't get better and the money didn't help as it was like £20 extra a month!
I didn't want that new job one bit, but was willing to leave if I had to, to save face. Guess my advice is to do that, leave, might be a different field but they'll either fight to keep you or you'll see their true colours instead of wasting more years there

Waytooearly · 28/05/2019 21:57

I agree with the above poster who said you should refer her to her boss when she asks you questions. Even if you totally know the answer.

Just crack on with your own work. Boundaries. If she asks you what she should be getting on with, say, 'Oh that's a question for [manager].'

By the way, is it possible she's been told you're her supervisor /manager?

What is management's direction with this project she's supposed to be doing? Schedule a handover meeting so she can be briefed and take it over.

CodenameVillanelle · 28/05/2019 22:00

That is total bullshit. agree you need to stop 'mentoring' her from tomorrow! How bloody dare they

fedup21 · 28/05/2019 22:02

I can’t imagine in what situation you’re in where you can’t move for 7 years. It sounds like the formative years of your career-whatever is stopping you from being stuck in a ‘starter’ role, it had better be worth it to you.

Ivestoppedreadingthenews · 28/05/2019 22:04

Not sure the solution but this is infuriating and I'd be livid in your shoes, never mind bitter.

daisychain01 · 28/05/2019 22:07

Disappointment and the hard knocks of rejection, are part and parcel of most careers, and the higher you want to climb in your career, the more likely you are to encounter set backs.

You didn't get the job, it feels 'unfair', but management have their own reasons, loads of thing in life aren't fair. It's energy sapping and should destroying finding reasons in your own mind that enable you to 'prove' how this colleague is less worthy than you and that they've just struck lucky, rather than getting there on merit (whatever the criteria were that the recruiters set). External candidates are often favoured as they are 'fresh blood' in the company.

Harsh though it sounds, you need to stop feeling resentful and try to quickly bounce back from disappointment otherwise you'll start looking like a sulky teenager, not someone who has positioned them for promotion (it may prove to management they made the right decision.).

It sounds like there are very few opening there, so you may need to move company to get a more senior role. Whatever your 7 year limit is, consider that's a significant chunk of life to have no chance of progression.

daisychain01 · 28/05/2019 22:08

and soul-destroying

areukiddingme · 28/05/2019 22:09

Another change of name with so specific info anyone who knows you will know it’s you. Why people why

daisychain01 · 28/05/2019 22:09

not someone who has positioned themselves for promotion

LiliesAndChocolate · 28/05/2019 22:09

This is not mentoring, this is training. You are teaching them to do the job.
Go sick for a week

Supersimpkin · 28/05/2019 22:11

Never threaten to leave unless you've already lined up another job. You need to get another job, so spend the hour each evening doing that.

Prioritise saying no politely but deflectively (eg Of course I can help you, let's talk in 2022). Then doing your own work. Timesheet how long you spend a) training b) managing c) inducting new employee.

Who's the boss's boss? Can you talk to her/him?

daisychain01 · 28/05/2019 22:11

I agree with the above poster who said you should refer her to her boss when she asks you questions. Even if you totally know the answer.

That really petty and mean. How many people come on MN talking about how upset and isolated they feel because people actually behave like this!!

Wallywobbles · 28/05/2019 22:12

You need to tackle this head on. Say how fucking unhappy you are. And do it fast while they are still on their trial period.

Whosorrynow · 28/05/2019 22:13

Very insulting, you have some leverage and you should use it

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/05/2019 22:14

Stop traiing her. That is what you are doing!

As others have said, talk to your boss, tell them how it is and that you are not happy to be training someone for a job they said you weren't ready for. Then pass her on to them every single time. That way you are not helping anyone hide the fact that she is not up and running, doing the job.

And yes, stop 'catching up' at home. And stop doing all the things you were doing that should be in her job. Let her grasp the reality of her position. She needs to know what it is she has undertaken, whether she stays or not, she has to know what the job really is!

arukiddingme maybe because some people feel a little less safe behind a pseudonym than you do! It doesn't hurt anyone, so why make a fuss?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/05/2019 22:16

That really petty and mean. Huh? That's called ensuring the chain of command knows what is going on. It is aka not working yourself into a hole in the ground; aka not being everyone's dumping ground.

OPs manager made thsi decision, they need to know what is happening and that OP is unhappy. I imagine the new recruit is too! The only person who can fix that is the boss!

CodenameVillanelle · 28/05/2019 22:18

@areukiddingme
I imagine because she doesn't mind if someone recognised her from this specific situation, but she doesn't want anyone to recognise her AND be able to advance search other posts she has made!
Why do you think people name change for identifying posts?

Doodlebug5 · 28/05/2019 22:24

I has this happen to me twice. It was the manager role came up. I applied for it. Didnt get it because I didnt have enough experience -fine. Trained my boss to do her job. 2 years later and I have proved myself time and time again. She handed her notice in. I applied and it was given to a favourite of the directors who had just handed her notice in from another area. She had no knowledge of our area either. They expected me to train her too. I went home that evening sent out my cv to the world and a few weeks later got a new job. Gave them the 1 week notice as per my contract as it had never been changed as I'd worked my way through the company. (HR oversight) that felt amazing as they slowly realised I had to hand over all my work in the next couple of days as it was a bank holiday weekend. I also had 12 days holiday which I debated taking as of the next day but decided to be paid it instead

They asked if I would stay a little longer to help my new manager do her job. I just laughed and When asked if there was anything they could do. I said no but think about team development and maybe ensure anyone else in this position doesn't have to train their own manager again. I was very bitter for months.

My advice? Go elsewhere. It will never change there will always be someone else.

Loopytiles · 28/05/2019 22:25

Beyond a short induction period and sharing info as you would with any colleague it’s not petty or mean to decline to tell someone senior to you how to do their job.

BigChocFrenzy · 28/05/2019 22:28

Your boss is doing this precisely because he thinks you are trapped with no other job option^
You are in a very week position wrt him

That's why you absolutely MUST change jobs - move if necessary

Otherwise, you will indeed be stuck there without promotion for 7 years

  • which will bugger up your later career and prospects elsewhere

Stop doing any more mentoring - just tell your boss you can't do 2 jobs
It is way past the usual induction / handover week that a junior person is obliged to provide to a more senior

This is one of the very rare occasions when you are morally entitled to get yourself signed off sick with stress.
That will give you time for extensive planning and job searches

BlackPrism · 28/05/2019 22:34

I feel you. I've been here 18mo and the new girl had been here 3 months albeit with another couple years experience elsewhere. She got the job, I didn't. She's now on £8k more than me and ... she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing. Various managers constantly asking me to redo her work, other people at my level getting annoyed because she hasn't a clue.

I guess having worked in the EXACT ROLE advertised for 18mo but without the title (even managers have said this) apparently being able to big yourself up at an interview counts more than honest, evidenced work.

I'm now having to teach someone who earns a massive amount more than me how to do her/my job. It's making me want to leave tbh.

Stop delegating and helping them beyond your role - let them get fired.

BitteryButterBeer · 28/05/2019 22:36

Thanks all. Feeling much better from getting it all out.

I've just registered for job alerts for the next nearest areas who post regular positions in my profession. It's going to be at least a 4 hr round trip each day compared to my current one hour travelling but I think it would be worth it for maintaining my confidence and self respect and progressing. It would be difficult but possible to sort my evening personal commitments so that someone can help out til I'm home at 7pm.

I'm quite excited now actually. I have a line management meeting at the end of the month so I'll mention then that I'm looking at other things.

I hope I'm not doing and saying all of this because I'm feeling a bit silly happy after reading your words of encouragement! Fingers crossed I'll wake up tomorrow with the same determination.

Thanks all.

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