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Husband went out with old flame without telling me

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NickD87 · 27/05/2019 00:07

Cutting a long story short....
Last night I went out to a film screening with husband and a friend of ours. They were drinking. And as my husband is freelance and has no invoices in, I purchased them 3 bottles of wine and snacks. I stuck to one tin of gin and then Fanta (sad).
Half way through the film (outdoor screening), they get a bit tiddled and want to leave to go to the pub. I admit I was a bit stand offish about it. I was enjoying the movie and my argument was “I’ve just bought you wine and stuff, I don’t want to spend the whole night in the pub too. Can we just go home or stay?”. Well, I was then the boring bad one. We ended up in the pub and they got more drunk and on the walk home he was his usual volatile drunken self saying awful things. As I was sober, I literally just ignored it.

He never apologises. And I don’t expect him to, really. But this morning I decided to just have my own space and stay in the garden. I at least expected a sheepish cup of tea or something, but nothing. In the afternoon - he asked if I wanted to go cinema and I was a bit nonchalant about it and decided I wanted to stay home. I didn’t make a big deal. He knew he had been an arse and I was annoyed he was trying to brush it under the carpet.

He called me at 8pm when he was out the cinema to check I was home as he forgot his keys. I said I was. And I couldn’t go out either because I’d given him my bank card.

Anyway....I sent a text at 11. I sent a text checking he hadn’t been kidnapped by an Uber driver (lol). He replied he was out with XXXX who he had ‘bumped into’ on the way home. We live in London, by the way. Not a little village. Although granted this person has moved recently to the area. He said they were having a ‘quick drink’ and he was on his way home.

It’s now passed midnight and, if this ‘bumping into’ had happened - I love a ten minute walk from the tube so assume it would have been around there.

Now, there’s no bad blood between him and xxxx. They do still share many friends. But they used to see each other. I actually knew him at this time, but it was before we were together.

I just feel like in this situation, when he knows he’s in the dog house, he knows I’m sat waiting to let him in and such - why on earth has he had a ‘quick’ (ie: over three hour) drink with an old flame? And not even told me until I’ve contacted to check where in earthbthey are - as he said he was coming home at 8!

Grrr. Is this unreasonable? I feel so angry but am just going to be calm and not talk much when he finally does arrive home. At least I have the European election results to keep me occupied (although probably won’t do anything for the anger!)

OP posts:
Coyoacan · 27/05/2019 01:49

And a previous poster got it right, I suspect today has been all about trying to get a rise out of me - so suddenly I’m the ‘unreasonable’ or ‘hysterical’ one and he is once again the dominant and ‘righteous’ force. I’m not going to let that happen no matter how angry I am

There's absolutely no point in fighting with him, but you do realise that this is how abusive people train their partners?

They wear you down and you end up doing all kinds of things you don't want to to avoid conflict.

Littleheart5 · 27/05/2019 01:51

I’ve never said this on MN, and I promise you I’m a very measured reasonable sort, but here goes anyway; why on Earth are you with this guy? It’s totally obvious he has no respect for you, and none of that behaviour is love in any way shape or form. He is both taking advantage of you, punishing you, and rubbing it in your face. Life is too short. You seem like you’re ‘stuck’ in this scenario. Seriously, LTB

RiversDisguise · 27/05/2019 01:57

Abusive, drunk, I assume cheating... sorry, OP, this is really horrible. Sad

Maybe get this moved to Relationships for support? This thread has not been too bad but AIBU can get feral. Flowers

NickD87 · 27/05/2019 02:04

Thank you once again for all these messages.
Weirdly, friends have said similar - although perhaps a bit more cautious (ie: they’ve never said ‘abuse’. Probably because they know I’d defend him, as we’d all need to be in a room together again) - things to me...but it’s really helped to hear this from complete outsiders perspective. There is a emphatic and clear consensus here....which is definitely making me realise things I’ve perhaps not been thinking of. Mainly, how his drunken antics yesterday were a sort of aside to the main issue. And they certainly shouldn’t be.
Thank you, ladies xx

OP posts:
NickD87 · 27/05/2019 02:14

Thanks RiversDisguise.
I think I’ll do that tomorrow from my Mums place and when I’ve had time to let the red mist clear.
I really didn’t expect this response....which is a huge positive I guess. Really wanted to know if I was being unreasonable. As that’s how I feel whenever I have a gripe like this. And I think I’m seeing now it’s far more serious than that.
Xxx

OP posts:
Flyingkites123 · 27/05/2019 02:28

Psychological and emotional abuse is really tough. If someone hits you, it's really obvious that's abuse. But psychological is like been drip fed crap so eventually it becomes your norm. When you finally have the courage to leave this guy, you'll look back at this period of your life and wonder how you stood it so long. Good luck getting out. It took me three years. Not always easy but go get your life back!! What he's doing is not OK.

Oh and my exs favourite lines were "you're been over sensitive", "you're over reacting", "normal people wouldn't respond like you do", "if your family and friends loved you they'd tell the the same." bullshit. Don't fall for crap like that either.

Frownette · 27/05/2019 02:32

It's a shame you have been conditioned to tolerate his behaviour.

Though it sounds like you were starting to formulate it's destructive if only subconsciously at first

LoudJazzHands · 27/05/2019 02:37

Marriage is ok generally. He is very controlling.

Those two sentences don't belong together. One controlling partner does not lead to an "ok" marriage. I feel for you, OP.

GirlDownUnder · 27/05/2019 04:00

OP Thanks hope you find strength to change your circumstances, but please ignore 'advice' like he'd also be recovering from a black eye!

DV / physical abuse is never acceptable - not as a threat, or a 'joke' Shock

SecretsInSpitalfield · 27/05/2019 04:17

OP- why did you purchase his and your friend 3 bottles of wine? Why didn’t the friend pay for her own drinks?
Also why did you just have one gin then Fanta while they were having a bit of a drinking session?

Does your OH contribute to the home?
Have you been together long?

Sorry for all the questions but it sounds like an odd set up (not that I can speak as my OH is a bit of a nasty knob!!)

itsnotallbbqsandshrimp · 27/05/2019 05:06

He's an abusive, gaslighting prick and he's making your life a misery. Stop bank rolling him, tell him to get to fuck and divorce him.

Ihatehashtags · 27/05/2019 06:51

He’s a prick

Grumpos · 27/05/2019 07:09

You’ve gone so far down the rabbit hole here that you can’t even tell if you’re being unreasonable to be annoyed that your husband is a manipulative, drunken, abusive, entitled man child who thinks nothing of disrespecting your thoughts and feelings on the regular, refuses to acknowledge or apologise and now makes up stories about bumping into EXs and spends your money getting pissed with them in the pub when he should be at home with you begging for forgiveness for the night before.
Do you really need to ask if you’re unreasonable? Literally gobsmacked.

Ivegotthree · 27/05/2019 07:19

I am not a LTB type usually but you really should. He is abusive and vile.

Cariadne · 27/05/2019 07:21

The drink with the OF is shitty, but the real issue is that he gets volatile and abusive when drunk, and is controlling. This is not a good relationship OP.

Allhailthesun · 27/05/2019 07:23

He’s clearly telling you he has no respect for you. He is also not brave enough to leave. The heavy drinking indicates he’s unhappy too.
Set him free Op.

( and enjoy the freedom of not living with an absolute tool).

TheRedBarrows · 27/05/2019 07:26

It’s all very well you not challenging him on the grounds that he is then getting a rise out of you, but what then? What happens to the rage you channel here?

As far as he is concerned, he does what the hell he likes with no regard for you. I bet he sees your silence as acquiescence.

He chooses when you leave an event, he uses your money two nights in a row, he takes no responsibility for his lack of s key and makes it your problem to stay in / wait up.

And he turns in you like an aggressive dog when drunk. He is presumably feeling less powerful because he doesn’t have his own money and then takes it out on you in an abusive verbal attack.

He’s saying “you might have the money at the moment but let me just show you that actually I am still in charge. I see who I like, even old flames, I do what I like and you wait up for me, and don’t forget that you are cunt so shut the fuck Up”.

And how come the friend didn’t buy at least one of the 3 bottles of wine??

OP: is it a dignified silence you are maintaining or are his tactics working?

OpportunityKnocks · 27/05/2019 07:32

Op, you have my first ltb. Please. It's not nice to live this way.

This sounds so much like my ex bf and it was horrid. There was great bits to our relationship, but the vile behavior when drinking, lack of respect, gaslighting, etc was awful.
Looking back now makes me cringe. When you're in it, you don't see it for how awful it is.

Please ltb

TixieLix · 27/05/2019 07:40

Make sure you retrieve your bank card from him and take it with you OP.

SunshineCake · 27/05/2019 07:41

He's being a twat. Hung for a sheep as a lamb! Might as well. Stop being so quiet. Stand up for yourself.

IfOnlyIKnewThen · 27/05/2019 07:50

Volitile when drunk and controling when sober. I'm sorry but from an outsiders perspective I cannot imagine there can be any other character trait that could mean that your marriage is 'generally okay '.

From your posts he comes across as emotionally and financially abusive. You seem scared to challenge him. The balance of power is all wrong.

Another vote for leaving this relationship. I would hate to see what would happen if you had his child.

Stormwhale · 27/05/2019 07:51

Sorry OP, but your marriage is most definitely not ok. The contempt he is capable of treating you with is sickening. He has shown such a deep lack of respect for you I would not be able to get past it.

Please wake up and realise you are worth far more than this. This is not how a marriage should be and you dont have to live like it.

AlexaAmbidextra · 27/05/2019 07:53

Marriage is ok generally.

You have very low standards. ☹️

Shoxfordian · 27/05/2019 07:57

Yeah it's not ok if he's controlling
He sounds like a dick
Tell your Mum all about it and stay with her

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 27/05/2019 07:58

He is very controlling. This is another thing that annoys me. If I did even a small fraction of what he’s done today or yesterday I probably wouldn’t be spoken to for a week or so. And now he’s acting like nothing has happened.

Well you already know what to do.... ltb.
Start confiding in your friends and your mum in rl.
They will be relieved and supportive to give you the momentum to continue.
Any kids?
Stop subsidising his free lance work. No more handing out of bank card.

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