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To move to Scotland because of Brexit?

243 replies

Fucksandflowers · 26/05/2019 17:28

DH is seriously talking about it.

We’ve always liked Scotland anyway...

DH is English, but looks foreign and gets an astounding amount of racism, at least weekly.

Genuinely fearful of the apparent growth of right wing politics in this country, DH in particular is worried if Farage gets in the racism is going to get even worse.

Anyone who lives in Scotland, what is it like?
Are people generally tolerant?
Any areas that are particularly nice and too expensive?

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thethethethethe · 28/05/2019 20:14

Where do you get that figure from?

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 20:15


Property may be cheaper but depending on what you earn you may pay more income tax than in England. “Free” prescriptions and a baby box don’t cover it.”

The overall tax take on individuals in Scotland remains lower than in England. Yet we still have free prescriptions and baby boxes. Because we run the best performing NHS in the UK.

LJdorothy · 28/05/2019 20:15

Nobody is saying Scotland is utopia. After all Utopia translates as nowhere. And nobody is saying 'everything is better than England.' The weather isn't better for a start.
But historically, Scots are more left-wing and they are, generally speaking, a friendly and welcoming people, or at least we are in Glasgow. And the NHS is in better shape up here, so I'd prefer to live here than in England, despite the weather. I have lived in Scotland all my life and have never come across anyone with a 'kailyard mentality' but that may because nobody grows cabbages in Glasgow. Much more profit in cannabis.

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 20:16

Polling data indicated more than 2m would wish to move north in the event of Brexit and independence. I divided it by 4 for the sake of realism.

thethethethethe · 28/05/2019 20:16

Very happy with the weather.

Gre8scott · 28/05/2019 20:18

Dont move here its just as bloodly bad and soom the idoit snp will be having anothet indref. I want to move to oz go there not scotland

madcatladyforever · 28/05/2019 20:20

You will still have Brexit in Scotland unless they detach themselves and move off.

LJdorothy · 28/05/2019 20:20

Gr8scott. If that's your wish, go for it.

zsazsajuju · 28/05/2019 20:34

For the pp assuring us that Nicola Sturgeon is not well thought of in Scotland- we just had an election and about 37% voted for her. The snp are By far the most popular party - I’m afraid that’s n objective fact.

You’re welcome!

dementedma · 28/05/2019 20:35

which means 63% didn't vote for her.....

Haggisfish · 28/05/2019 20:37

I moved to Scotland from England when I was twelve. I got hideous abuse for being English. One particularly fine memory was waiting in queen st train station in Glasgow after a football match. Everyone chanting ‘if you hate the fucking English, clap your hands’ and most people clapping and laughing. Including the police.

nicslackey · 28/05/2019 20:40

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome?

MorrisZapp · 28/05/2019 20:41

My step mother was hounded out of a job in Fife for having an English accent.

People do realise that brexit is happening up here too? We leave and stay as the UK, Scotland doesn't have EU membership, and thirty per cent of SNP voters support brexit anyway.

MyNameIsArthur · 28/05/2019 20:43

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome

There are plenty of Scots who move to England too

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 20:46

“How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome?”

They are very welcome. They will bring their money and stimulate the economy, as well as paying tax here. Lovely jubbly.

emotionalaffair · 28/05/2019 20:47

DH is English and has lived in Scotland for over 30 years now and has been on the receiving end of loads of anti English bigotry. It's embarrassing.

Anyway now we're having another indyref you'd be off your rocker to move here. You think Brexit was poisonous and divisive then you ain't seen nothing yet. It's going to be awful.

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 20:50

Fife is a weird part of Scotland but even still I don’t believe your claim.

An independent Scotland will probably gain EU membership pretty quickly because it is compliant with all EU legal frameworks but even if it didn’t it could easily join the single market via EFTA and have freedom of trade and movement, just like Norway and Switzerland.

Either option is infinitely better than Brexit and Little England isolationism.

As well as being a magnet for people, an independent Scotland in the EU or EFTA will be a magnet for business investment.

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 20:52

An MP was murdered during the Brexit referendum campaign. The worst that happened in Scotland in 2014 was a Labour MP being hit with an egg.

justbeginit · 28/05/2019 21:00

love Scotland, im English, lived outside of Edinburgh for about 10 years. great for the kids. great for the commute.

The only bit of racisim was when I was in my local shouting at all the Scots during the world cup. Nea trouble pal, just grand patter aye.

its great but don't be deceived, nice places are expensive and second only to London. I could still move to the south east with the house we are in.

justbeginit · 28/05/2019 21:04

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome

The fu*n love us. well like all immigrants (love it) tend to move for employment thus more tax, more revenue and more ability for LA's to build the infrastructure or they could just build trams.

emotionalaffair · 28/05/2019 21:18

In the last month or so Annie Wells' office was firebombed and a Tory councillor's house was firebombed. Both could easily have resulted in loss of life.

PrincessTiggerlily · 28/05/2019 21:19

an independent Scotland in the EU or EFTA will be a magnet for business investment
Well it isn't now, why would it then?

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 21:44

London.

StreetwiseHercules · 28/05/2019 21:47

What’s that got to do with a referendum on independence? It’s all Brexit at the moment.

The campaign for political independence for Scotland has been non violent for its entire 100 year history, in stark contrast to British nationalism.

Davros · 28/05/2019 22:28

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome?
Bigoted nimby. If I said that about European immigrants to where I live in London there'd be uprage and outroar