To move to Scotland because of Brexit?

[Fucksandflowers]

DH is seriously talking about it.

We’ve always liked Scotland anyway...

DH is English, but looks foreign and gets an astounding amount of racism, at least weekly.

Genuinely fearful of the apparent growth of right wing politics in this country, DH in particular is worried if Farage gets in the racism is going to get even worse.

Anyone who lives in Scotland, what is it like?
Are people generally tolerant?
Any areas that are particularly nice and too expensive?

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome

I have a recollection that Scotland said they welcomed EU immigration. Is it only English folk who would put a strain on infrastructure? Are EU migrants welcomed but English folk not welcome?!

So all these English brexit escapees want to live in Coatbridge and Glenrothes do they? Do they heck. They want to live where its picturesque (no local jobs, all young folk fucked off) or somewhere with culture (lol when they see the house prices).

I found anyone was more welcome than the English!

My S-in-L and her DH did it for that very reason. She says they're happy where they are (about half an hour from Glasgow) and have had no issues being English (& southern English at that).

Personally, I wouldn't, as I don't care for the place (sorry Scotland but you're too cold and wet).

When Scotland becomes independent at least 500,000 people will move here from England, and very welcome they will be. What a boost for our fledgling independent economy

Riding on pink , sparkly unicorns? What utter piffle

MatthewBramble ....... yes, the south of England has definitely got milder and drier weather than Scotland, and it's milder and drier than the north of England.
I've lived and worked all over England as well as living and working in the Central Belt of Scotland.
Fierce winters in the parts of Yorkshire and Lancashire I lived. So much milder further south.
People come in a variety of attitudes across the UK and have different likes/dislikes wherever you go.
Never been abused in England for being a Scot (usual accent Micky taking), and husband and kids never abused for being English while in Scotland (apart from the football teams they support). Sense of humour goes a long way.
OP - go where you think you will be happy - if you are not happy where you are the sensible thing is to move sooner rather than later.

I would err on side of caution and rent for six months over winter before taking the plunge to sell up and buy.

I'm English and have lived in Scotland for 25+ years DH is a highlander

Anti- English sentiment does exist but in pockets never really experienced any in Lewis, down here in west Dunbartonshire where I worked ( i don't live there) there was quite a bit but it wasn't just anti English it was anti anything but Scots so anti-polish, anti muslim anti west African etc

Weather in general Scotland is colder and wetter being further north
however parts of the East Coast are drier than parts of England

The West Coast is wetter but warmer than East Coast and central areas, The East coast is drier, sunnier in Summer and colder and windier in Winter than west
The wettest parts of the UK are parts of the west of Scotland from Fort William down to Loch Lomond average rainfall is nearly 3000 compared to driest part of UK (east Anglia ) where it is about 600, London is about 700 the Lake district and Wales are also wet
obviously the warmest places are furtherest South but coldest places are the East coast and furtherest inland the Yorkshire Moors are much colder than Argyll and Skye
www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/climate/ select rainfall and annual
The wetter parts have midges in abundance
Scotland has some excellent points there are also bad points
Scotland moans about Westminster, The highlands and islands moan in a similar way about Edinburgh

I love things about Scotland other things not so much but it is no utopia, when I moved here educational results were ahead of England now they are below, I have worked for NHS in Scotland for years I do not detect much difference
local councils are generally hopeless like everywhere else but in sparsely populated areas you are much more likely to actually know Councillor and there are still lots of independents running to represent their own village but not affiliated to any party this I think is a good thing, I would rather Joe the butcher represented me from village X than the political party I support but who lives in the big town 20 miles away
the great outdoors is nearer and more accessible it is almost impossible to live more than 20-30 minutes drive from proper countryside ( ie not a large park)
There is no shortage of land or water but remote living has ups and downs long drive to hospital, shops station etc
There are sink estates and expenses parts of the cities, there are drugs and alcohol misuse,
People are generally friendlier but can place more emphasis on where you are from and be cliquey
Sectarianism is rife in Glasgow and parts of West Scotland but again it is in certain suburbs and not universal

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome?

They are welcome. Very welcome. In fact it's been stated repeatedly that Scotland needs immigration and welcomes it. Whether that's from the EU, England specifically or elsewhere.

It's rarely mentioned because it doesn't fit the independence = hating the English narrative that Westminster is clinging to.

they only mind if the folks moving up try to change the feel or rules in the way village or school or clubs are run instead of fitting in

just like if you move to a farming place and start complaining about the noise from cows being milked at 5am it is not going to endear you to the locals, don't expect that they want to appoint you as head of the committee for organising local highland games 2 minutes after arrival in your new house in the highlands but if you go and try and fit in and join in without moaning about the lack of facilities compared to Islington it will be fine

If I had a pound for every immigrant who moved to London and didn't "fit in" I'd be minted. Its what you do with so-called "outsiders", accept them and their funny ways

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome

Presumably they welcome anyone who contributes to the country, pays tax and doesn't commit crime. Regardless of where they come from.

An MP was murdered during the Brexit referendum campaign. The worst that happened in Scotland in 2014 was a Labour MP being hit with an egg

To be fair that was just luck. Jo Cox's murderer could have lived in Scotland and decided to murder Jo Swinson instead. Murderers are murderers.

(or bad luck) - not a great turn of phrase, sorry.

John Cleese has been bemoaning that london no longer feels like an English city - from his home in the Caribbean 😂😂.

What a wanker. London does feel like London if you're here to experience the changes in real time

I live in the west of Scotland but have family all over the UK. Despite the impression that has been quite successfully cultivated by the SNP and others in recent times, there really is no difference in attitude between the people of Scotland and those of England, although the politicians talk a more left wing talk up here. As mentioned above the attitude surveys consistently show this.

There are many good points to living in Scotland, not least the lower cost of living and accessibility of gorgeous countryside (outside the cities anyway), but frankly you'd be nuts to move here because you think there's less racism or that Scotland will be insulated from Brexit. Quite the opposite in fact, if Sturgeon gets her way we might end up out of the EU and the UK, and then we're pretty screwed.

How do the Scots feel about all these English folk deciding to head up and start putting a strain on housing, education etc. Do they just assume they are welcome?*
Bigoted nimby. If I said that about European immigrants to where I live in London there'd be uprage and outroar

Wow. how rude. I am not in Scotland actually and was simply asking a genuine question about people who are and I am delighted that they would be welcome as they would be in Northern Ireland where I DO live. You jumped to a conclusion there Davros, tripped and landed on your arse. I have lived and worked in every country in the UK and have no problem with anyone. As a Scot would say, "Go boil yer heid."