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To wonder why men still do this?

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Marvelboys · 23/05/2019 21:44

I was sitting at some traffic lights today in my car, nice sunny day so window wound down, toddler ds in the back, minding my own business waiting for little guys to change.. A youngish man in a van waiting at lights going on opposite direction.

All of a sudden he shouted really loud at me "I hope you've washed it". I jumped out of my skin as it startled me, and looked over to see who was shouting, so he laughed and mimicked my jumping, I gave him a filthy look and he loudly said "hahahaha" and drove off.

I think the "hope you've washed it" was referring to my hair as I was fiddling with my hair. But really, what the fuck?

I thought my days of casual street harassment were over but apparently not.

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Boohootoyootoo · 24/05/2019 05:29

I was very heavily pregnant and working at a college. As I walked past a group of trainer bricklayers one shouted 'someone's already had a go at that one.' And they all laughed.

I replied, 'sorry, what did you say?'
He went bright red and refused to repeat it. I stood there until he did and said 'right, walk with me to your head of section.' He got a right bollocking and I really hope all of them got a bit of a lesson that day.

Boohootoyootoo · 24/05/2019 05:32

Oh and the guy who pinched my arse in pub to impress his mates.

The look on his face when I turned round with a 7 month pregnant bump and laid into him and his friends sign a lecture on exactly why that's inappropriate behaviour.

Love moments like that.

SinkGirl · 24/05/2019 05:41

It’s so depressing that this still goes on.

Had this argument with MIL’s BF recently. He was saying how it’s nice to get a compliment from a stranger and how it would be a nice confidence boost if it happened to him. I had to spell it out for him like he was 5, and he still didn’t get it

shitwithsugaron · 24/05/2019 06:08

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Chippychipsforme · 24/05/2019 06:18

Boohootoyootoo brilliant work

I've been hassled out running and gone back and asked them what they said. Funny how they don't have much to say when confronted.

SunshineCake · 24/05/2019 06:39

pickme. I really hope you've reported that disgusting man.

SarahTancredi · 24/05/2019 06:40

Urgh....

I get this a fair bit too.

If they arent yelling at me, it would appear that not driving through cars in front of me, stopping on box junctions or being in 5th gear zooming down the road the nanosecond the lights turn amber is the worst offence in the world, they are so far up my arse I have to go get the morning after pill.

Hate it. Fuck off

All to get one car ahead as they nearly always end up stuck at the same lights as me. Sometimes even right next to me if there's a second lane.

Serves them right when I end up merging infront of them further up the road or they get blocked behind someme turning right.
.fuckers

Taylor42 · 24/05/2019 06:44

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WhyisntMusicManacareeroption · 24/05/2019 06:55

@frenchonion, I love throwing your chip into his car! Well done!

wertuio · 24/05/2019 06:58

As a boy of 17/18 in my first year of driving, in company with others of similar age I am embarrassed to confess that I would occasionally shout at women from the safety of my car. In my defence, the 1970’s was virtually a different country.

I’m sorry. I know better now and as the father of two DDs i would challenge anyone I saw acting this way.

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Sarah Taancredi - if they are up your arse you won’t need the morning after pill

Messyisthenewtidy · 24/05/2019 07:09

I’m sorry. I know better now and as the father of two DDs i would challenge anyone I saw acting this way.

wertuio I appreciate that you’re sorry and I have to say it’s pretty brave to admit to catcalling on MN, but it really does piss me off when it takes having daughters for men to start seeing women as human beings.

origamiunicorn · 24/05/2019 07:16

It's definitely not just British men. In fact it's worse in certain European countries I've been to such as Spain, Italy, Portugal... It's another level in Turkey. The only place I never experience it was in the States, so they're doing something right over there. Well the parts I visit any way.

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origamiunicorn · 24/05/2019 07:21

As I walked past a group of trainer bricklayers one shouted 'someone's already had a go at that one

I hate it when men use phrasing such as "that one" "that" e.g. Ooh look at the tits on that. Angry It just shows those men see women as possessions or toys and not as a actual human beings! It's actually vile Envy

SarahTancredi · 24/05/2019 07:23

Does ‘as the father of daughters’ give anyone else rage?
Yes.

I have 2 dds but i sure as hell would have taught any sons that it was not acceptable.

It's not something we should obky care about if it affects you at some point. We should be teaching our children how to be decent human beings .

Taylor42 · 24/05/2019 07:23

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origamiunicorn · 24/05/2019 07:23

Does ‘as the father of daughters’ give anyone else rage?

Yep.

wanderings · 24/05/2019 07:25

It happens to men, in different ways.

While my DH was waiting at lights, he was running his hands through his hair, as one does. A driver pulled up in the lane alongside him, and demanded aggressively "are you giving me the finger??" My DH automatically locked the door with his elbow, and gave some neutral reply.

My DH told me about a time he was a teenager, and driving his parents' Volvo (with them as passengers), when a black cab behind started flashing lights and tailgating; when stopped at lights, his dad got out and started yelling at the driver of said cab. It seems the cabby was put out by a teenager driving a big car at 30mph in town, instead of the expected 37mph (down to 33 for the speed cameras). Then the lights changed, and teenage DH had to drive off, leaving his dad standing! Shock Cabby stayed where he was and kept on yelling. DH's dad said afterwards it was his protective instinct kicking in.

origamiunicorn · 24/05/2019 07:28

Taylor42 @origamiunicorn I was telling my friend this exact same thing last week. They are certainly doing something right in the states.

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I never got cat called or harassed once. Walked past many a construction worker in New York and Washington. Nothing. Actually I remember the first time I had to walk past a group of men digging up a road towards the Upper West side in NY and I was waiting for it... I got a "morning" or something similar, it was such a relief!

cerseiswinegoblet · 24/05/2019 07:34

I'm sorry you all have to put up with this. As a more mature woman, I don't have to any longer, but I remember what a pain it was (and scary at times).

Having said that, I did get stopped in the street by a young man who asked me if I "wanted to do business." I was about 52 at the time.

TheSassyAssassin · 24/05/2019 07:34

I've shared this on here once before and have also had a lifetime of street harassment, but one I couldn't get over recently (just last Oct) was at the end of a first date via OLD.

It was a Sat aft, we'd gone for a coffee in a very nice country pub. Spent couple of hours with him but knew he wasn't for me (older than he'd said on his profile etc) but seemed nice enough (well-to-do lawyer). No suggestive chatting or physical contact on date (pub full of families and groups of friends). Go to leave and say our goodbyes in the car park and he pulls me in close and whispers: "Sassy, you're lovely and very very fuckable!" Shock I replied with: "And you're not the first man to tell me so!" spun round on my heel, shook my hair and marched off!

He didn't even know my surname, but it was apparently ok to tell me whether he would or he wouldn't! Angry There was no 2nd date! Hmm

SinkGirl · 24/05/2019 07:35

*As a boy of 17/18 in my first year of driving, in company with others of similar age I am embarrassed to confess that I would occasionally shout at women from the safety of my car. In my defence, the 1970’s was virtually a different country.

I’m sorry. I know better now and as the father of two DDs i would challenge anyone I saw acting this way*

Even Liz Lemon herself doesn’t have an eye roll big enough for this.

Women were still people in the 70s, as far as I’m aware.

Lifeover · 24/05/2019 07:36

Men are generally immature cocks up to the point they meet a woman stronger than them and get put in their place. Hopefully that woman is their mum so they are told how to behave from the off. Some men seem to go all through their entire lives without the requisite kick up the arse.

The whole father of daughters pisses me off basically you thought it ok to treat someone else’s daughter like shit until you thought a similar bloke would treat your daughters like you’ve spent your life treating other women

cerseiswinegoblet · 24/05/2019 07:39

Oh and I was out mowing my lawn last autumn and a random man decided to come in to my garden and iave me a lecture of when I shoudn't and should cut grass. Called me "girl". So maybe it doesn't stop once you get older, just takes a different form!

cerseiswinegoblet · 24/05/2019 07:39

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