To want to go up to a woman snorting cocain, who suspects she is pregnant,

[MrsScavo]

grab it off her,flush it down the toilet and tell her she's an idiot?

I think there is a difference between doing something conciously and unconciously.

I also had a big night out before I realised I was pregnant with DD however once I knew I was pregnant I abstained.

I think there is a difference between doing something conciously and unconciously.

I also had a big night out before I realised I was pregnant with DD however once I knew I was pregnant I abstained.

Ooh you rebel

That was for Sophable by the way. Did the woman in question actually want her baby? Just wondered as sometimes women try to sabotage their pregnancy. In the old days it would've been gin and a hot bath - hard to believe that would actually cause a m/c though.

I think it really does depend on what the woman is going to do. I smoked cannabis and used magic mushrooms in my first pregnancy at 18 because I knew I was going to terminate and I did secretly hope the drugs would do the job for me and I would be spared the abortion process.

I don't really think anyone can say anything till they know what's she planning to do. Obviously if she intends to keep the baby she needs to stop, but if she's not? Then it's not really anyone's business, is it?

As for the argument about people using drugs, I can understand perfectly why many people are so anti-drugs, but you're not going to stop people using them, so why get so wound up about it?

Also this is a bit off-topic, but it is worth noting that each drug affects each user differently, so one person (no-one I know, but still) might be perfectly capable of looking after a child under the influence of a bit of cocaine, whereas another person (me in this example!) couldn't be trusted to care for a child after one small bottle of beer.

"read the talk to frank website, it has pretty good information, and will help you to post more informed comments"

Informed comment? Do you think I have been living in on the planet doo lally for the last 40 years?

I KNOW how common the use of this drug is.I have known many people from all walks of life who have used/use cocaine.

I dont care that its now becoming more 'socially acceptable' thats part of the problem.
I think anyone who takes it is seriously deluded and anyone who takes offence to that well I wont be loosing any sleep over it.
I mean seriously, what are you doing? Putting the kids to bed and then doing a line? Ugh how f*ckin sad.

i dont get this attitude that only illegal drugs are bad?i mean,i dont think the pharmesuetical(sp?)industry is primarily concerned with people's health is it?drugs are drugs,and i really dont understand why only those that are illegal are 'evil'?

Good point. I have to say that I am disgusted by the corruption that goes on re. pharmaceutical companies - drug lunches, free holidays etc etc. In my line of work most px drugs have pretty awful side effects. As I said before, I don't use Cocaine and never have. Infact I don't use any illicit substances. However, moderation is key. Lets face it, a line of Charlie every now + then is not going to cause the average person much of a problem. IMO smoking 20 fags a day and exposing kids to passive smoking is worse.

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has this thing kicked off yet?

lots of foot-noted quotes but no actual "ahhhhhhhh shadddduppps". Highly commendable. Carry on.

Gad, I miss coke, cigarettes and tequila slammers.

As for OP, I think I would have remarked to Little Miss Snorty "So are you pregnant or not and if you could be, why are you doing that?"

suzy.

thread reminds me of the teacher in south park 'drugs are bad, m'kay?'.

There was a drugs thread on the pregnancy forum a while back and a woman posted who had helped with a study on long-term drug use in pregnant women. She said it was found that the occasional line of coke in early pregnancy had no measurable effect on the health of the foetus. Of course that wasn't a politically expedient or socially acceptable result so it's not a well known study.

As for after your children are born, I don't see any problem with recreational drug use so long as it doesn't risk the health of your child. My husband has the occasional smoke in the garden and that doesn't bother me. He's hardly insensible afterwards - in fact, he's in far better shape than if he'd lurched home after a night in the boozer, which lots of people think it's OK to do when they've got kids.

Please note: I'm not condoning cocaine use in pregnancy, just suggesting that some of the "will no-one think of the children" hysteria demonstrated here is a little over-the-top.

i agree lazyemma. dp, who is really v conservative, read all the books when i was pg first time. he said to me at the time that cocaine was 'better' for the feotus than cigarettes. which we both thought was a sobering thought. not that i smoke anymore. gave up when decided to become pg (about 2 hours before i did become pg then)

When I found out I was pregnant, I smoked. The GP said to me -
"how would you feel if your child was born with a defect caused by your smoking?"
I gave up pronto. Some highs just aren't worth the lows.

Well since I am the bad guy who started the alcohol thread, you can all imagine what I think.

I have a brother born who was born premature and weighed just a little over 2lbs. He spent three months in the hospital, went through several surgeries, and has traveled an uphill battle his entire life. His drug addicted mom couldn't deal with the product of her drug abuse, and so she dropped him off with our dad and never looked back. My drug addicted dad, hung himself with rope when my little brother was 12. So the only parent he ever knew committed suicide. Talk about one fucked up kid.

So no your not being unreasonable to want to do all that. I am tired of hearing, people protesting the rights of parents over the rights of unborn children.

Leati - that infrmation about your unfortunate and extreme childhood goes a long way to explaining your extreme opnions for me.

sorry you went through that.

Leati - was your mum not around when you were growing up? I am also to hear what you went through. Did you say (on the alcohol thread) that your half-sibling had been on Crack Cocaine when pregnant? I assume she had a voracious habit and didn't do a line of coke every now and then. Mind you, I don't think anyone has said that taking cocaine whilst pregnant is fine. Tell me off if I'm being too nosy but what drug was your dad addicted to?

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Maybe she intends on getting an abortion. This possibility wasn't commented on by the OP