To want to go up to a woman snorting cocain, who suspects she is pregnant,

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grab it off her,flush it down the toilet and tell her she's an idiot?

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Desiderata: your smoking and your drinking could lead you to die a slow painful death of either lung cancer or cirrhosis. And your drinking might make you look ridiculous to other people on occasion.
As to "cannibis-induced psychosis", whether cannibis causes mental health problems or merely worsens them in already-susceptible people is in some doubt. As is the often=quoted "fact" that cannibis these days is stronger than it used to be.

still - its a shit argument. that someone can't argue against drugs becuase there are equally worse things in the world is a shit argument.

i think you will find that there is strong medical evidence to suggest tht young people who use cannabis over a prolonged period of time and who have a family with a history of mental illness - are more likley to suffer from a mental illness. smoking is bad for you, toomuch of anything is bad for you - ANYTHING.

the argument is futile.

the truth is illegal drugs are not monitored, taxed or regulated. therefore the amount of information available to the average teenager is limited unless they look for it.

becuase unless you talk to effing frank - which quite frankly is highly unlikley, then knowing that for instance taking an 'e' makes your heart beat faster - as does asthma medication - might come in useful to those who use inhalers.

Sorry but I disagree. When you take recreational drugs, the brain cells disappear at a more rapid rate. With skunk, it's something like 10x to the power of alcohol.

The chances of early onset dementia are extremely strong.

My mother was an alcoholic who died at 45. She was completely barking at the time of her death. Smoking has physical side-effects. Drinking has physical and physiological side effects. Recreational drugs have the same effects as alcohol, but times it by 10.

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i don't necessarily think its a societal ideal to not be regularly stoned, smoking or pissed when you have children.

its just basic stuff.

...And I'm going to bed in a minute or two as well.
There isn't a valid argument against recreationl use of drugs that only applies to recreational use of drugs. The two main arguments against recreational use of drugs are:

1. They are not very good for you
2. Their production and distribution involve unethical practices. Both these arguments apply to an awful lot of other everyday things. So whether or not one takes recreational drugs is a matter for the individual to decide.

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thats like saying - beating shit out of your kids is ok - becuase theres a lot of other bad shit goes on in the world

of course ven though its illegal - its persoanl choice

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i know about frank - i have contacted them - i doubt not that they have good information - i doubt very much the proactivness of teenagers in finding this information out.

societal ideals - wtf does that mean then.

HPD: taking recreational drugs is not the same as assaulting other people.

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your argument equated to the same thing - saying its ok becuase worse things happen

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yes that is what i understaood to be the case which is why i posted

"don't necessarily think its a societal ideal to not be regularly stoned, smoking or pissed when you have children.

its just basic stuff."

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you seem to be refusing to actually explain - rather repeat. so i will hazard a guess that by societal ideals you are inferring that society says its ok to do drugs when your young but not when you have kids - even if your kids are not around at the time.

i think your completely deluding yourself if you think that regular recreational drug use doesn't afect your family.

oh and BTW do as i say not as i do - doesn't work when the kid hits 14.

its more " well you did it"

I got through university in the 80's and working in advertising in the 90's and working in the City in 2000's without a single non-prescription drugs passing my lips/nose/veins. God how dull am I - I was strictly an alcohol and ciggies girl and neither of those now.

Aquaintance who did cocaine "recreationally" recently died of heart attack in his 40's leaving a young family - IIRC it was thought to be drug related heart damage but would need to check. He is second man in his early 40's I know both cocaine users to die from a heart attack. Could be co-incidental though.

Same here Kewcumber!

Just one point to make about choice, yes you have the right to use/abuse your body in whatever way you see fit however your unborn child has no choice and is relying on you to make the right choices for it. IMHO.

Another problem with cocaine use is that frequent users can suffer from depression. GPs may then px anti-depressants and if the individual has not been upfront about their cocaine use, the consequences can be dire as tricyclics (a type of anti-depressant)increases heart rate, which when combined with stimulant effect of cocaine = increased risk of heart attack.

sorry, am with madamez.

no one in position to throw stones in glass house imo. and we are ALL in glasshouses unless we are self sufficient a la good life.

how many women get very drunk when they might have conceived? I know I did. once. on valentine's day. it is worse for the foetus.

come and get me.